Thanks Ski.  We also recently spoke to a new, young vendor named Rubrik.
It's an interesting product, but our company tends to avoid technology
that's less than 5 years or so in the market (pah!  boring! :) ).

-Adam

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ski Kacoroski <kacoro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Adam,
>
> I am a much smaller shop, but we really like Unitrends Virtual Backup. It
> is like Veeam, was less expensive for us, and just plain works.  I have no
> idea how if it could handle your solution.
>
> cheers,
>
> ski
>
>
> On 10/27/2015 06:14 AM, Adam Levin wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I've got a question about how you backup your VM environment?
>>
>> We're using vSphere 5.5 and NetApp NAS for datastores.  We have about 75
>> 8TB datastores, and about 2500 VMs.  The VMs are not distributed evenly
>> because of service levels associated with the datastores.
>>
>> We're being told by various backup vendors that the main issue is the
>> number of VMs per datastore, because quiescing lots of VMs and then
>> taking a datastore snapshot can produce long wait times when rolling the
>> qieusced images back in to the running VM.
>>
>> Our VM team is telling us that there is no current tool to manage the
>> number of VMs per datastore, just the size of the datastores.
>>
>> So I'm curious what some common methods are for managing backups in a
>> large VM environment. Do you just use agents and backup from within the
>> VM?  Do you bother doing app consistent backups of the VMs or just
>> snapshot the datastore and not worry about consistency?  Have you found
>> a product that manages qiuescing and snapshots in a reasonable way?
>>
>> We've looked at NetBackup, Commvault and Veeam so far.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
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