On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
<lop...@nedharvey.com> wrote:
>> From: tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org]
>> On Behalf Of Doug Hughes
>>
>> LTO, Ultrium/IBM, and
>> StorageTek have a published archival life of 30.
>
> If they publish a spec, that's something you can work with (and I would 
> venture a guess, probably good enough to satisfy Bill's original request for 
> statistics.)
>
> It turns out, searching for "archive hard drive" produces a result - WD 
> produces a "WD Ae Datacenter Archive HD"  WD600VF4PZ, "The WD Ae is best 
> suited for cold storage, backup and data archiving where data is stored on 
> disk but rarely if almost never read again"
>
> But so far I haven't found any published spec about data longevity.

I'm not sure a device that comes with a 3 year limited warranty is
really going to be interesting for my suggested use case.  See bottom
of last page in:

http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/AAG/ENG/2178-800087.pdf

That isn't any longer than typical warranties for actively used disk
drives.   If anything, this is a signal that using disks for offline
storage is a bad idea.

BTW, I want to thank everyone who responded to my original question.
Lots of new ways to think about the topic.  One thing, I learned when
I looked more carefully at LTO tapes is that they quote different
rates for uncorrectable vs. undetectable errors.   Uncorrectable are
like 10^3 better then disks, while undetectable are like 10^13 better.
In scenarios involving multiple copies, this would seem to be significant.

Unfortunately though, it seems like nothing other then anecdotal data
is available for longevity of offline disk drives.  Oh, well...

Bill Bogstad
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