I don't know if it's clear from the install docs, but: 1. We don't use the Ivy Plugin, and we use Eclipse 3.1 almost exclusively. We are going to get into GMF which will force all of us to use 3.2 eventually...
2. If you are just using the Modeler, you shouldn't need to install Ivy. 3. If you are using the Framework solo with src, you will need to have Ivy installed to download all the dependency libs. But again this is just Ivy installed, not the plug-in. Is that clearer? Let me know if I need to change install docs. Key is we want people to use it - to play with it and see if it is up to snuff and if you think it's the bees knees to start contributing. We can make as many fancy presentations as we like but if it can't execute on what it's purported to do it's just more 'emperor's new software'. Please report any fatal bugs or impediments to being able to use it, thanks. It's Alpha, but we did some pretty aggressive QA prior to release so that the community doesn't spend it's time with dumb bugs but can instead focus on current and desired functionality. Quoting Peter Svensson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I would really like to try it, bu for abscure reasons I run eclipse 3.1, > which the ivy plugin does not support yet :| Anyway, it looks lika a great > effort, and it would be very interresting to see if you could > loan/borrow/support some of the existing stuff in trails. > > Cheers, > PS > > On 3/28/06, Steve Motola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not trying to take away from Trails, which is a great project and we cross > > some > > of the same areas. Chris said they do some of the same stuff but I got > > the > > implication from the blog that they did not cover all these items. We > > take > > some different approaches but are going to look into how we can > > collaborate. > > > > > Wow this sounds fantastic! Is it easily possible to reuse your Edit > > > components in an existing project? > > > > Yes, you can have as many 'Cognition:Edit' components as you like in a > > page / > > project. Each is backed by a generated XML file that can be edited. > > Currently, all Edit components are tightly coupled with a POJO / table and > > we > > are looking to separate that some to be more flexible to support multiple > > table > > forms with transactions. > > > > > And are they tight to hibernate objects or would they work for any > > object? > > > > Right now Hibernate only. We are looking at supporting other ORMs as well > > as > > other datasources other than RDBMSs, but as per Derick in another thread > > we are > > using some features unique to Hibernate such as filters in the other > > companion > > components. > > > > We're also planning to extend them to have 'Ajax enabled' versions as > > well. > > Anyone want to take this on? ;) > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Henri. > > > > > > > > > On 3/28/06, Steve Motola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Answering Howard's Blog - Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - "From the > > fanciful > > > > ideas > > > > category ..." > > > > > > > > >Wouldn't it be nice if I could just plop the following into the > > middle of > > > > my > > > > form? > > > > > > > > <span jwcid="@edit:EditObject" object="ognl:pojo"/> > > > > > > > > The Cognition Framework Edit component basically works just like that, > > i.e > > > > .: > > > > > > > > <span jwcid="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" persistent="ognl:new > > > > com.thelabllc.product.orm.model.Product()" /> > > > > > > > > Form fields are wrappered Tapestry components called EditTypes. We > > cover > > > > the > > > > basics - text, radio button, propertyselection, etc. > > > > > > > > For any new field you can just create a new EditType (EditTypes are > > > > Hivemind > > > > contributions). For example, if you have a composite field of three > > > > textboxes > > > > that needs to be validated in a particular way, (i.e. US phone number) > > > > you create a 'Phone' EditType and then this can be reused within any > > Edit > > > > component easily. > > > > > > > > As more people contribute, this has the power to be a very > > comprehensive > > > > list of > > > > EditTypes available for any form. > > > > > > > > > > > > >And, of course, some set of annotations to define the validation of > > those > > > > properties. > > > > > > > > We do this via XML at this time, using Validators and Translators, > > with > > > > editable > > > > defaults put in for most datatypes. > > > > > > > > We will have more annotation support for items like this in the > > > > future. The > > > > advantage that the XML provides is that your configuration is not tied > > to > > > > your > > > > code; you can potentially have Nth number of variations on how you'd > > like > > > > to > > > > display your field in a form. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Maybe even so carefully named Block components to provide row > > overrides? > > > > > > > > Done, you can override form items with a Block. > > > > > > > > > > > > >I think this logic would kick ass when building prototypes. > > > > > > > > Time to take names. ;) > > > > > > > > http://www.thelabllc.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ........................................ > > > > > > > > Steve Motola > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (310) 422-5521 > > > > > > > > The Lab, LLC > > > > http://www.thelabllc.com > > > > > > > > Content is for intended recipient only. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........................................ > > > > Steve Motola > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (310) 422-5521 > > > > The Lab, LLC > > http://www.thelabllc.com > > > > Content is for intended recipient only. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ........................................ 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