I will say in tapestry's defense that there are a lot of very positive things going on openly/off-list over on the developers list. It looks like we are getting two new very active comitters joinging the team, moving to a top level project at tapestry.apache.org, getting a new site design from the same person that designed http://dojotoolkit.org, as well as slew of other very nice things.
I'm also currently solely making a living doing dojo / tapestry work and am finding that there is curiously a lot more tapestry work being done by large corporate entities than people know. My business partners and I are working on cracking the gov sector in D.C. which should be fun, as we all know they just love spending endless amount of $$ ;) ...All we have to do is beat the f-$%-ing oracle consultants. Maybe a literal beating would be the best solution. Seriously though, we're providing tapestry dev/training/etc support so there should be more good things coming even now. It's an exciting time for tapestry, I think everyone is going to be very pleasantly surprised about what happens in the next coming months. :) jesse On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now I really wish I had been at SeaJUG, but a flat tire got in my way. > > In any case, I think Tapestry is a fantastic concept, but in my experience > the sheer lack of support (online docs, forum support, books, training) > makes it a poor sell to those making decisions. Not to mention changes > from 3.0 -> 4.0 and proposed changes in 4.1 and 5.0 all makes for a high > maintenance, low reuse, and generally dirty migration path (imho). > > I was really curious to hear the JSF war stories. As the documentation > (books/examples), training, and support of JSF is fantastic compared to > Tapestry. > > > > > Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 03/22/2006 10:50 AM > Please respond to > "Tapestry users" <tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org> > > > To > TapestryUsers <tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org> > cc > > Subject > promoting Tapestry > > > > > > > Just want to share: > last night here at Seattle Java User group we had a round table > discussion where people were presenting WEB UI frameworks they use and > tried to highlight things they love about them. There were many: > Millstone, Barracuda, echo2, JSF, Struts, Tapestry, Tiles/Sitemesh, DWR, > RubyOnRails > Every presenter had about 6-8 minutes for a "sales pitch" and at the end > people answered the question: > If you were a king and decide what framework to use for next project, > which framework will you use? (People voted once only for just one > framework) > > Tapestry – 15; > Struts – 5; > JSF – 3; > The rest got zero or 1 votes; > I could attribute Tapestry's warm reception to my presenter skills :) > but in reality it is the Howard's hard work and Tapestry community make > the framework so appealing to developers. > I ask everybody to speak about Tapestry more frequently on occasions and > this way we all will benefit from wider Tapestry adoption. > > > Konstantin Ignatyev > > > > > PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen > million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of > tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between > forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, > add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population > by 263,000 > > Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs > a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York: State > University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206) > > -- Jesse Kuhnert Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer Open source based consulting work centered around dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://opennotion.com
