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> After Tapestry 4 is final, the next project needs to be to create a
> comprehensive developers toolset IMO. It's the wizards and autopromts that
> get the beginners roped in. Spindle would seem to make a logical place to
> start.
> 
> John

        Agree about 200%; I'd dearly love for users to be able to download
one package and get, say, a working Tapestry+Graphical Form
Editor+Hibernate+MySQL Administrator all running inside of eclipse.
Admittedly only two of those four currently exist, so it wouldn't just be
integration, but also development, but I'm dreaming here :).

        I just wish java tools (and open source tools in general) aimed more
at integration and less on obscure geek features.

        --- Pat



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