> Again folks, write tests - don't think your compiler is helping you
> much.  Use reflection anywhere you like, just test your use of it.

Ok, reflection is as testable as anything else - it does however, open a
Pandoras Box for an unskilled programmer to make a mess. What I like about
Java over C++ was removing a lot of the pitfalls that required experience
and discipline to avoid.

> You really ought to give RoR a try then.  It lives up to the hype of
> productivity gains.

Thank's, I'll take a look.

> Definitely possible.  I looked at using the core of Spindle to do
> this at point, but it is very connected to the Eclipse API, making it
> prohibitive to create an Ant task that Tapestry could ship for such
> things.

A good idea, and a pity. This is the challenge vs .NET isn't it, building
productive tools. If you ever used MS Access, you may remember how smart it
was at prompting everything. I don't mind if the whole build environment is
Eclipse based, or whatever, so long as it offers an integrated set of useful
tools to make up a comprehensive set. All these frameworks to be stuck
together is what makes Java flexible, but too geeky.

After Tapestry 4 is final, the next project needs to be to create a
comprehensive developers toolset IMO. It's the wizards and autopromts that
get the beginners roped in. Spindle would seem to make a logical place to
start.

John



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