Hi, and thank you for your response.
This phone is a new one purchased off Ebay, so no Talks previously
installed.
Thank you for your information.
Judy
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Giggar
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 5:41 PM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons
Judy
You said you are trying to install this on a N96. I take this is an old N96
and not a new one?
Did the N96 already have Talks on it? If so, did you turn it off before
trying to install the new version? You shouldn't have needed to turn Talks
off at all from version 5 on.
Did you leave the battery in or out of the phone while you weren't using it?
If you left the battery out of the phone and when you initially put it back
into the phone, did you set the date and then bypass the time? Yes you
noticed I didn't say anything about the city. If the phone had already been
configured; Leaving the battery out for let's say an hour or so will cause
it to come up asking for the date and then the time.
As you can see; to many unknowns to just give you one straight answer.
But my initial thoughts, it sounds like you don't have the date set
correctly. Try using 03/03/2014. Yeh I know that is last year's date, but
that would ensure it will install. You can install Talks first and then the
TTS. That away you will have speech for the TTS install. The phone already
has an TTS built in and this is why you can do that. Then you can set the
date and time correctly when you get it up and talking.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.
Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:27 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons
Hi again,
Well, no success. I have an N96 phone. I followed your instructions step
by step, but obviously am doing something wrong with no verbal results.
I downloaded PC Suite on my computer. It wanted to update my phone, and I
had fails on that one, the message saying update failed, no other messages.
Also, I could not remember which of the Talks files to load first, so I
opted for the eloquence file. At this point, I was no longer getting any
update failure messages from PC Suite, so hoped I had somehow updated the
phone.
However, when trying to install, during the process, I get a "click" like a
hang-up noise.
Too many unanswered questions.
I am still keeping your instructions, however, in the event I can get them
to work at some point. Not sure what to do next.
Judy
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Giggar
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 10:32 AM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons
No Judy! I posted instructions a long time ago back in 2004/2005 of how to
install Talks without sited help. At that point, dealers whir wanting to
charge people $100 to do less then 5 minutes of work! That is why I posted
the instruction of how to do it on your own.
Basically! If it is Symbian 3rd SP1 and below; The screen come up as City
(Pressing SoftKey2) to bypass.
Next screen date. This requires you to know of you have an American firmware
phone or overseas firmware phone being the Month/Day are reversed. If you
don't know; Then enter something like 01/01/2015 and it will not care as
long as the date is after the date on the Talks signed file. Then press OK.
Next is the time screen. Again you can press SoftKey2 to bypass this screen
being Talks doesn't care about the time.
Now on Symbian 3rd SP2 and above the screens for date and time are reversed.
Time and then Date. Same procedure for entering the date.
Give the phone about 15 seconds after that and then press the End Call
button to clear anything on the screen. You can then press a number to see
if you get touch tones or not. If not, press the End call button again. Keep
repeating until you can get touch tones. When you get toucn tones; the press
the end call button again to clear the screen.
Then installing Talks on your own; It is besed to connect it to your PC
using PC Suite. Again knowing what type of phone you have will tell you if
you need to arrow UP once or just being able to press select. Normally on
Symbian 3rd Edition SP1, you may need to arrow UP once I think it is to be
able to select PC suite mode. On Symbian 3rd SP2 and above you can just
press enter.
Then using your PC, select the file and tell your PC to send it to the
phone. Wait for the phone to beep; Then start pressing SoftKey1 with an 5
secont delay between presses. Do this 7 times. Then give the phone about 30
seconds to start talking. After Talks is installed, then you can install the
TTS.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.
Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 10:53 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons
Hi, Brad, It's been a long while since I hve used Talks, and thought
sighted assistance was needed to set date and time out of the box. Please
explain, for instance, should I get a Nokia N96 for my husband from Ebay, I
power up the phone, how can I install Talks without sighted assistance.
Would be great to know. Thanks in advance.
(Judy
Sent from my Samsung S5 Mini Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------
From: Brad Keller <keller...@gmail.com>
Date:01/25/2015 8:36 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: 'Talks Mailing List' <talks@talksusers.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons
As of right now there is no further development being done on talks since
the Symbian platform is no longer being used on Nokia phones... they have
gone to Windows mobile OS. No you do not need sighted help to install talks
as long as you know what symbian version is on the phone.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:50 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons
Thanks so much for your message. I thought your observations were the case.
Too bad. I was talking with a younger person just this past week who is not
enthrawled with touch screens either.
Do you think Talks has a future or will it also become a thing of the past?
Correct me if I am wrong, but if memory serves, sighted help is still needed
to install Talks, especially when getting a new phone that needs time and
date set. I've gotten too spoiled with my Android with TalkBack built in.
Thanks.
Judy
-----Original Message-----
From: Dawnielle Voegele
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 10:57 PM
To: talks@talksusers.com
Subject: [Talks] Android phones with buttons
Hi judy,
I know that some android phones still have buttons. However, they are
equipped with touch screens, as well. They have slide-out keyboards. And
yes, phones with buttons are becoming a thing of the past. My guess would be
that in another five or maybe ten years, you will not be able to find phones
with a physical keyboard or keypad, anymore. I think it’s sad, personally,
because my grandparents adore their flip phones and have no use for touch
screen devices and all they can do. They simply want the phones for texting,
calling, and possibly, picture-taking. But I know that some Androids do have
slide-out keyboards still.
Take Care,
Dawnielle
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