Thank you very much, am keeping this e-mail.

Judy


-----Original Message----- From: Stephen Giggar
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 10:32 AM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons

No Judy! I posted instructions a long time ago back in 2004/2005 of how to install Talks without sited help. At that point, dealers whir wanting to charge people $100 to do less then 5 minutes of work! That is why I posted the instruction of how to do it on your own.

Basically! If it is Symbian 3rd SP1 and below;
The screen come up as City (Pressing SoftKey2) to bypass.
Next screen date. This requires you to know of you have an American firmware phone or overseas firmware phone being the Month/Day are reversed. If you don't know; Then enter something like 01/01/2015 and it will not care as long as the date is after the date on the Talks signed file. Then press OK. Next is the time screen. Again you can press SoftKey2 to bypass this screen being Talks doesn't care about the time.

Now on Symbian 3rd SP2 and above the screens for date and time are reversed. Time and then Date. Same procedure for entering the date.

Give the phone about 15 seconds after that and then press the End Call button to clear anything on the screen. You can then press a number to see if you get touch tones or not. If not, press the End call button again. Keep repeating until you can get touch tones. When you get toucn tones; the press the end call button again to clear the screen.

Then installing Talks on your own; It is besed to connect it to your PC using PC Suite. Again knowing what type of phone you have will tell you if you need to arrow UP once or just being able to press select. Normally on Symbian 3rd Edition SP1, you may need to arrow UP once I think it is to be able to select PC suite mode. On Symbian 3rd SP2 and above you can just press enter.

Then using your PC, select the file and tell your PC to send it to the phone. Wait for the phone to beep; Then start pressing SoftKey1 with an 5 secont delay between presses. Do this 7 times. Then give the phone about 30 seconds to start talking. After Talks is installed, then you can install the TTS.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 10:53 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons

Hi, Brad, It's been a long while since I hve used Talks, and thought sighted assistance was needed to set date and time out of the box. Please explain, for instance, should I get a Nokia N96 for my husband from Ebay, I power up the phone, how can I install Talks without sighted assistance. Would be great to know. Thanks in advance.


(Judy

Sent from my Samsung S5 Mini Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Brad Keller <keller...@gmail.com>
Date:01/25/2015  8:36 AM  (GMT-07:00)
To: 'Talks Mailing List' <talks@talksusers.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons

As of right now there is no further development being done on talks since the Symbian platform is no longer being used on Nokia phones... they have gone to Windows mobile OS. No you do not need sighted help to install talks as long as you know what symbian version is on the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:50 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Android phones with buttons

Thanks so much for your message. I thought your observations were the case.
Too bad. I was talking with a younger person just this past week who is not enthrawled with touch screens either.

Do you think Talks has a future or will it also become a thing of the past?

Correct me if I am wrong, but if memory serves, sighted help is still needed to install Talks, especially when getting a new phone that needs time and date set. I've gotten too spoiled with my Android with TalkBack built in.

Thanks.

Judy


-----Original Message-----
From: Dawnielle Voegele
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 10:57 PM
To: talks@talksusers.com
Subject: [Talks] Android phones with buttons

Hi judy,

I know that some android phones still have buttons. However, they are equipped with touch screens, as well. They have slide-out keyboards. And yes, phones with buttons are becoming a thing of the past. My guess would be that in another five or maybe ten years, you will not be able to find phones with a physical keyboard or keypad, anymore. I think it’s sad, personally, because my grandparents adore their flip phones and have no use for touch screen devices and all they can do. They simply want the phones for texting, calling, and possibly, picture-taking. But I know that some Androids do have slide-out keyboards still.

Take Care,
Dawnielle
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