When you bring up the Nokia Software updater; It is a screen that JAWS will
not read on its own. This is when you would need to do an Insert+Spacebar,
then press O for OCR then press W to tell it to try to read the text on the
screen. You will need to make sure that the Nokia Software updater screen is
Maximized first.

Like I said this is something that was included with JAWS 13 and above. So
yes your version does have it as long as you installed the OCR file when you
installed JAWS. Ie the file you should have also downloaded with JAWS was
called FSOmniPage.msi. You can install this on its own if you haven't
already done it. Then you would be able to use this functionality of JAWS to
update your phone.





Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of stephen faill
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware

hi eleanor.
i have never needed to use the o c r feature so ithat is why i didn't know
about it.
if i had anything to scan i have seperate software for it.
i will find out a lot more about this matter though.
regards.
stephen faill

-----Original Message-----
From: Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 8:26 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware

Oh right that is excellent Stephen, the other thing is I am surprised you
have not known about the JAWS OCR and me not a JAWS user and I know about
it.  Maybe look on the Freedom Scientific website and see what they tell you
about its use.  I am on many different e-mail lists, you don't appear to be
on any of them, for instance access-uk and BCAB.

Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen faill" <stephen.fa...@btinternet.com>
To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware


> hi eleanor.
> i have come accross o c r in open book when using a flatbed scanner and as

> you say it does sound like it is used in this application for scanning the

> screen.
> i like new things so will give it a shot.
> my girlfriend is computer literate so we will get through it just fine.
> regards.
> stephen faill
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Eleanor Martha Burke
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 8:20 PM
> To: Talks Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware
>
> Actually Stephen I do not use JAWS but I know of this new OCR facility in
> more recent versions.  It is used where there is print on the screen which
> JAWS screen reader is not reading out to you, I suppose it is a graphic
> image with embeded writing just like a photo or image pdf file.  I think
> this is the down side of that Nokia updater.  If your girlfriend is 
> computer
> literate then she may be able to assist you, like I said it is difficult
> because of the accessability issues.  Do let us know how you get on.
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "stephen faill" <stephen.fa...@btinternet.com>
> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware
>
>
>> hi eleanor.
>> thanks for that description.
>> ok i have used jaws for a good few years now and i don't think i have 
>> ever used this?
>> will be looking into it.
>> regards.
>> stephen faill
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Eleanor Martha Burke
>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:55 PM
>> To: Talks Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware
>>
>> optical character recognition
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 10 Nov 2014, at 19:28, stephen faill <stephen.fa...@btinternet.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi stephen.
>>> thankyou for your reply to this post.
>>> ok i am running jaws 15 on a windows 7 machine so this shouldn't be a 
>>> problem
>>> what is o c r?
>>> i have just downloaded and installed pc suite from the blindsea website 
>>> but the nokia firmware updater link is dead so will have to locate 
>>> another source for that.
>>> regards.
>>> stephen faill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Giggar
>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:08 PM
>>> To: 'Talks Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware
>>>
>>> Yep it can be done; But you will need JAWS 13 or above to it. You will 
>>> need
>>> to use the OCR function of it to do it. You will also need the PC Suire 
>>> and
>>> the Nokia Firmware updater software on your PC.
>>>
>>> A blind person can do it; but it would be easier if you have someone who

>>> can
>>> see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com]

>>> On
>>> Behalf Of stephen faill
>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:25 PM
>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware
>>>
>>> hi eleanor.
>>> yes i will certainly be taking a note of the talks serial number etc.
>>> now all i need is a kind person on here to have done this procedure and 
>>> let
>>> me know it is easy and has been a success.
>>> regards.
>>> stephen faill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Eleanor Martha Burke
>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 5:57 PM
>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] nokia e71 and firmware
>>>
>>> You can certainly go ahead and update the firmware, but you may lose 
>>> Talks,
>>> this is why I did not do this myself as I did not have someone sighted
>>> around to reinstall Talks.  It may be an idea to make a note of the 
>>> Talks
>>> seriel number before the upgrade so you could then perhaps reinstall 
>>> Talks
>>> if it does get removed in the upgrade process.
>>>
>>> Eleanor
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