Just doing the calculation in my head, I've had Talks on a cell phone
since 2003, and I know I've spent way less than it would have cost to be
on an iPhone that whole time. I don't see how owning an iPhone would end
up costing less in the long run.

On 06/10/11 16:33, kim kelly wrote:
> I agree with you.
> It is a little harder to get use to the Iphone, but, I feel that this is
> the way to go.
> I just got an iphone and I do like it much better than a smart  phone or
> simbian or windows mobile phone.
> Besides,  Voice/over is in the phone already and it is cheaper in the
> long run.
> 
> Kim Kelly
> Skype:
> richies12
> 
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> kim...@cableone.net
> 
> Visit my website and also read my blog:
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> www.samobile.net/users/kimk59
> 
> Have a grate day.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex wallis"
> <alexwallis...@googlemail.com>
> To: <talks@talksusers.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] assistance celling nokia e7
> 
> 
> Hi list.
> sorry for late reply, but I get my talks e mails as digests, so don't
> see the messages til the digest turns up.
> now, first off thanks for the response to my thread, and the list
> recommendations.
> second, I have several reasons for selling the e7,
> firstly, I just couldn't get along with its touch interface, just
> sliding my finger round the screen hunting for items I didn't find it
> very easy, the way the iPhone does things seems much more efficient to me.
> second, I couldn't figure out at all dialing numbers on a call to
> interact with a phone menu system, I tried but every time you start a
> call you first of all have to bring up the virtual keypad so you waste
> time hunting for the button to do that, they really should make it
> display on screen during a call automatically, or give that option in
> the settings.
> 
> my third reason for selling the phone, is the qwerty keyboard, the keys
> are nicely shaped, but I find them quite stiff, and in the case of the
> home row featuring the f and j, really squashed up against the bottom of
> the touch screen, making it very easy to trigger opening of menus and
> settings. though it has to be said when using mobile speak accidentally
> touching bits of the screen and doing things I didn't want wasn't a
> problem, due to the way mobile speak takes over the screen, it did help
> with accessibility, but the physical way the home row is squashed up
> didn't make for comfortable or fast typing.
> 
> the fourth reason for selling the phone though, is more fundamental,
> technology is changing, and changing rapidly, to put it totally bluntly,
> I don't see talks having a long term future, because nokia is moving to
> windows phone 7, which is currently inaccessible, so in a few years,
> phones will no longer run symbian, and who knows if or when windows
> phone 7 will be accessible, yes microsoft have said it will be, but who
> knows to what extent. Also, windows mobile the other OS that talks runs
> on is now basically no longer under development in favour of windows
> phone 7.
> the way I see it, is talks has to adapt to support windows phone 7, if
> it is made accessible.
> more importantly, it needs to be adapted to work on android devices,
> which at the moment it is true are usably accessible, but at the moment
> google do need to do a lot on there side to improve things.
> so this leads in to my fifth reason, based on the research I have done,
> and my views about the future viability of talks and symbian, I think
> for the moment the iPhone offers better accessibility than talks on a
> symbian device, I think with touch screens like it or not, adaptation is
> needed to make navigating the screen easier, and the iPhone has
> accessibility built into its core with voice over.
> I also think there are far more apps out there for iPhone than symbian
> 3, anna or fifth edition, and the nice thing with apple is that they try
> to force developers to make apps voice over accessible which is not the
> case with talks.
> I would much rather have an android phone due to the level of
> customisation, but I think google just isn't taking accessibility
> seriously enough for me to even consider adopting it, I want access to
> the native apps on the phone rather than a shell where I am in a taylor
> made accessible application that is not what my sighted peers use.
> at least with iPhone I will be on a level playing field.
> as for how much I am selling the e7 for, I was looking for around £350,
> but am very happy to discuss terms with anyone who is interested, and I
> am very negociable, so just try me if you are interested, make an offer.
> I live in the UK.
> Thanks for reading,
> Alex.
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