Hey Guys! Is it really all about money? I have been using Talks for over 6 years. It has done everything I wanted it to do and more. It has been robust and very user friendly. I love it. I will gladly pay the extra 100 dollars for it. Thank you Talks! It has really changed the lives of so many. However, unfortunately, now it seems that Talks is getting outdated and it seems they are not doing anything. Sad. R.I.p. -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] assistance celling nokia e7 From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> Date: 07.10.2011 7.26 am
True, but I paid $300 for Talks in 2003. Since then I've paid $100 when transferring that Talks license to a new phone. I've strictly gone with phones under contract, so I don't think I've paid more than $50 for a phone. How much does an iPhone under contract cost? I've heard they cost something like maybe $200? So 4 iPhones would set me back $800 while I've spent $900 so far. True, using this example, I'm still $100 behind, but I'll be ahead of the game in 2 phones. I know I'm rounding things off here and estimating, but my point is that it isn't so obvious that the iPhone is the cheaper way to go in the long run. On 06/10/11 20:41, Allan wrote: > the way they feel cheaper on an iPhone is just because they dont have to > purches a separate software to use a smartphone. another > reason that they feel the iPhone is rather cheaper to own is because all > people around the world that uses iPhone paying for the > voice over although they dont use it. > > > -- > > Allan (WKF) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 05:40 > Subject: Re: [Talks] assistance celling nokia e7 > > > Just doing the calculation in my head, I've had Talks on a cell phone > since 2003, and I know I've spent way less than it would have cost to be > on an iPhone that whole time. I don't see how owning an iPhone would end > up costing less in the long run. > > On 06/10/11 16:33, kim kelly wrote: >> I agree with you. >> It is a little harder to get use to the Iphone, but, I feel that this is >> the way to go. >> I just got an iphone and I do like it much better than a smart phone or >> simbian or windows mobile phone. >> Besides, Voice/over is in the phone already and it is cheaper in the >> long run. >> >> Kim Kelly >> Skype: >> richies12 >> >> Email and Facebook: >> >> kim...@cableone.net >> >> Visit my website and also read my blog: >> >> www.samobile.net/users/kimk59 >> >> Have a grate day. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex wallis" >> <alexwallis...@googlemail.com> >> To: <talks@talksusers.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] assistance celling nokia e7 >> >> >> Hi list. >> sorry for late reply, but I get my talks e mails as digests, so don't >> see the messages til the digest turns up. >> now, first off thanks for the response to my thread, and the list >> recommendations. >> second, I have several reasons for selling the e7, >> firstly, I just couldn't get along with its touch interface, just >> sliding my finger round the screen hunting for items I didn't find it >> very easy, the way the iPhone does things seems much more efficient to me. >> second, I couldn't figure out at all dialing numbers on a call to >> interact with a phone menu system, I tried but every time you start a >> call you first of all have to bring up the virtual keypad so you waste >> time hunting for the button to do that, they really should make it >> display on screen during a call automatically, or give that option in >> the settings. >> >> my third reason for selling the phone, is the qwerty keyboard, the keys >> are nicely shaped, but I find them quite stiff, and in the case of the >> home row featuring the f and j, really squashed up against the bottom of >> the touch screen, making it very easy to trigger opening of menus and >> settings. though it has to be said when using mobile speak accidentally >> touching bits of the screen and doing things I didn't want wasn't a >> problem, due to the way mobile speak takes over the screen, it did help >> with accessibility, but the physical way the home row is squashed up >> didn't make for comfortable or fast typing. >> >> the fourth reason for selling the phone though, is more fundamental, >> technology is changing, and changing rapidly, to put it totally bluntly, >> I don't see talks having a long term future, because nokia is moving to >> windows phone 7, which is currently inaccessible, so in a few years, >> phones will no longer run symbian, and who knows if or when windows >> phone 7 will be accessible, yes microsoft have said it will be, but who >> knows to what extent. Also, windows mobile the other OS that talks runs >> on is now basically no longer under development in favour of windows >> phone 7. >> the way I see it, is talks has to adapt to support windows phone 7, if >> it is made accessible. >> more importantly, it needs to be adapted to work on android devices, >> which at the moment it is true are usably accessible, but at the moment >> google do need to do a lot on there side to improve things. >> so this leads in to my fifth reason, based on the research I have done, >> and my views about the future viability of talks and symbian, I think >> for the moment the iPhone offers better accessibility than talks on a >> symbian device, I think with touch screens like it or not, adaptation is >> needed to make navigating the screen easier, and the iPhone has >> accessibility built into its core with voice over. >> I also think there are far more apps out there for iPhone than symbian >> 3, anna or fifth edition, and the nice thing with apple is that they try >> to force developers to make apps voice over accessible which is not the >> case with talks. >> I would much rather have an android phone due to the level of >> customisation, but I think google just isn't taking accessibility >> seriously enough for me to even consider adopting it, I want access to >> the native apps on the phone rather than a shell where I am in a taylor >> made accessible application that is not what my sighted peers use. >> at least with iPhone I will be on a level playing field. >> as for how much I am selling the e7 for, I was looking for around £350, >> but am very happy to discuss terms with anyone who is interested, and I >> am very negociable, so just try me if you are interested, make an offer. >> I live in the UK. >> Thanks for reading, >> Alex. >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > -- Christopher (CJ) chalt...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
