ahhhh, what a painful moment for me, if i change back to elo123, i cant get talks tell me the caller ID, but if i use the elo125, i will get the chis chis chis sound.
but however, talks working fine with the symbol table in ^3 phones, but for E72, E52, it is still broken. -- Allan (WKF) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 21:06 Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 i still get the sound using the 23 version of the tts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan" <em...@nextg.my> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 > ahhhh, i rather use the 6.1.123 for now, because the new 6.1.125 produce > those chis chis chis sound. i am using talks 5.21 with > eloquence 6.1.123. > > > -- > > Allan (WKF) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 20:55 > Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 > > > yes i went to the nokia tts and then removed. and reinstalled > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 > > >> did you remove the old eloquence first then install the new one. This is >> how I did it and there are no buzzing scratchy or other noises what so >> ever. >> Eloquence can't be running when you update it. I remember when we went >> to >> new versions Stephen said to switch to the tts voice or other speech when >> updating. Because several list members reported problems I decided to >> remove the old version completely before installing the new. >> Bernard Hemmings >> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >> Home: 61-02-95841280 >> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav....@gmail.com> >> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >> >> >>> Hi Bernard and all, >>> I have a Nokia E72 as well and can confirm the following observations. >>> 1. Eloquence US has the strange scratching noise or however you want >>> to describe it. >>> 2. The symbols list still does not speak. >>> >>> Pranav >>> >>> On 8/11/11, Bernard Hemmings <li...@bhemmings.net> wrote: >>>> The browser works ok on the e72 however when using the down arrow to >>>> hear >>>> the links on a page the blindsea web site each link is spoken twice so >>>> you >>>> have to press the down arrow twice to move to the next link. I don't >>>> know >>>> about the email app yet. I wonder if the symbol list works on other >>>> updated >>>> phones as it does not on the e72. >>>> >>>> Bernard Hemmings >>>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >>>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >>>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >>>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >>>> Home: 61-02-95841280 >>>> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >>>> >>>> >>>>>i got iinstalled properly >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorbu...@btinternet.com> >>>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:42 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Make sure your software certificate is set to all. Then you should >>>>>> not >>>>>> get the problem. >>>>>> -original message- >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >>>>>> From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Date: 11/08/2011 11:15 am >>>>>> >>>>>> i got a message unable to install constrained by the sirtificate. >>>>>> what >>>>>> do i >>>>>> do? >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <for...@talknav.com> >>>>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>; >>>>>> <talks...@freelists.org> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:31 AM >>>>>> Subject: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nuance have released the new latest version of Talks, available for >>>>>>> immediate download from TalkNav's FTP site, www.talknav.com, simply >>>>>>> click >>>>>>> on Nuance Accessibility, Downloads, then click the link to connect >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> FTP, and then follow through. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Release notes below, you can also from our site purchase any >>>>>>> upgrades >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> your license that you may need, or indeed, transfer licenses that >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> may >>>>>>> require if you now wish to try out a new phone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.21 >>>>>>> Release Notification >>>>>>> 1. Introduction >>>>>>> We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - >>>>>>> Nuance >>>>>>> TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.21 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / >>>>>>> 5th >>>>>>> Edition / Symbian^3 for August 11th, 2011. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Version 5.21 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses >>>>>>> generated >>>>>>> after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd >>>>>>> Edition). >>>>>>> In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer >>>>>>> who >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> currently able to run version 4.11 or 5 without requiring a new >>>>>>> license. >>>>>>> 2. The new handsets >>>>>>> 2.1. Changes to the list of supported phone models >>>>>>> The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 >>>>>>> "Known >>>>>>> Issues" about some limitations): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nokia C5-00 5MP >>>>>>> Nokia C5-03 >>>>>>> Nokia C6-01 >>>>>>> Nokia E6-00 >>>>>>> Nokia E7-00 >>>>>>> Nokia X5-01 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. >>>>>>> However >>>>>>> we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nokia X7-00 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this >>>>>>> version. >>>>>>> 3. What's New? >>>>>>> This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.21 compared to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> previous version (5.20). >>>>>>> 3.1. New versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer >>>>>>> This update includes new versions of both Eloquence and Vocalizer >>>>>>> packages >>>>>>> for all languages. Old versions of these voices can still be used, >>>>>>> however >>>>>>> it is important not to mix different versions of Vocalizer on the >>>>>>> same >>>>>>> phone, as this can lead to problems when switching to a Vocalizer >>>>>>> voice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . Eloquence 6.1.125: this version uses 16kHz audio output on all >>>>>>> phones. This both improves compatibility (for example making speech >>>>>>> during >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> call possible on Symbian^3 phones) and audio quality. In addition, >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> version fixes crashes seen with the US English version packaged in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> previous TALKS releases. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are now two installation packages available for US English, >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> called >>>>>>> Eloquence_enu_dct_6_1_125.sisx which contains an extended >>>>>>> pronunciation >>>>>>> dictionary, and one called Eloquence_enu_6_1_125.sisx without the >>>>>>> dictionary, leading to somewhat higher speed and lower memory >>>>>>> consumption. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . Vocalizer 5.42.1: this version includes the latest updates from >>>>>>> ongoing Vocalizer product development, with various improvements >>>>>>> across >>>>>>> several languages as voices. >>>>>>> 3.2. Other changes >>>>>>> This section lists further changes to TALKS that were made in this >>>>>>> update: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Application support: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . The new web browser (version 7.3) introduced with the June 2011 >>>>>>> firmware update for some phones, e.g. the E52, E72, C5-00 and E5-00, >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> now >>>>>>> supported. This also fixes access to e-mails that was lost for the >>>>>>> same >>>>>>> reason on these phones. >>>>>>> . Some new items can be read on the Home screen, e.g. profile name, >>>>>>> Widget Catalogue or Microsoft Communicator entry. >>>>>>> . Internet Radio: volume keys are enabled by default also on touch >>>>>>> screens. >>>>>>> . Internet Radio: Added reading of Now Playing and Station Info >>>>>>> screens on 3rd Edition, plus some error popups. >>>>>>> . Symbian^3: [long Vol Down] now defaults to [Enter] in web browser, >>>>>>> to allow selecting bookmarks with side keys. >>>>>>> . Symbian^3: Added support for reading focus in "album cover" view. >>>>>>> . An embedded browser without a window title is announced as >>>>>>> "browser", to clarify situation e.g. when opening an e-mail body. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> indicates that [Talks],[Down] can be used to read the contents of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> page, >>>>>>> if it is not otherwise accessible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Touch screen improvements: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . Disabled use of [Camera] key to force "explore" mode. This feature >>>>>>> was introduced in version 5.20, but led to various >>>>>>> incompatibilities, >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> example by blocking the starting of the [Camera] application >>>>>>> . Symbian^3: rotated portrait [Talks] and browser keypads by 90 >>>>>>> degrees, to better match softkey layout on screen. >>>>>>> . The symbol table of the virtual keypad is now being read. Note >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> the symbol table can still cause the virtual keypad to become >>>>>>> inaccessible >>>>>>> on some 5th Edition phones. >>>>>>> . Symbian^3: Text input into objects announced as "Fields" (e.g. >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> or date) is now supported. Note that it is still not available on >>>>>>> 5th >>>>>>> Edition models. >>>>>>> . Symbian^3: Virtual keyboard in Ovi Maps Search dialog is >>>>>>> recognized >>>>>>> in the proper place on the screen. >>>>>>> . Added "Change reading of graphics" and "Read date and time" to top >>>>>>> row of virtual keyboard for [Talks] key. >>>>>>> . Multi-tap gestures are no longer blocked by TALKS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Other changes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . Symbian^3: speech on a call is now supported. As a result, the >>>>>>> Caller ID can be read, for example by pressing [TALKS],[Up] when >>>>>>> call >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> ringing. >>>>>>> . Disabled T9 dictionary in Manual Registration screen for easier >>>>>>> input of license. >>>>>>> . You can now press the second key in a TALKS shortcut, such as >>>>>>> [Talks],[5], together with the [Talks] key, rather than having to >>>>>>> release >>>>>>> the [Talks] key first. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bug fixes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . Fixed cases where the virtual keyboard was not being detected in >>>>>>> certain situations (also affecting Daisy2go). >>>>>>> . Fixed rare application crash when long text is changing, e.g. >>>>>>> scrolling appointments in month view of E52 calendar. >>>>>>> . Fixed restart of Symbian^3 phones when using zoom gesture in >>>>>>> browser. >>>>>>> . Fixed recognition of focus in e-mail inbox in "portrait" mode. >>>>>>> . Fixed rare incidents where the following text was often being >>>>>>> suppressed after a particular menu item (the exact situation where >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> happened depended very much on voice, speed, audio settings etc.). >>>>>>> . Fixed cases where task switcher on Symbian^3 phones was announced >>>>>>> when it was not in the foreground. >>>>>>> . Braille: partial fix to problems entering SMS messages using >>>>>>> Braille. The contents of the message and the number of remaining >>>>>>> characters >>>>>>> are now updated when either [Space] or [Delete] are pressed, so >>>>>>> adding >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> deleting a space at the end of a message can be used to make sure >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> message gets sent in full. >>>>>>> 4. Known Issues with specific handsets and apps >>>>>>> . Nokia browser 7.3: opening drop-down lists by pressing [Select] >>>>>>> currently does not work reliably, due to a bug in the browser. >>>>>>> . In very rare cases, this version of TALKS may leave the audio >>>>>>> channel of the phone open until the next sentence is spoken, leading >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> higher battery consumption and possibly conflicts with the SMS >>>>>>> signal. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> is expected to happen only in very specific circumstances, and thus >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> affect the majority of users. >>>>>>> . Nokia E7-00: the default [Talks] key on this phone is the [Menu] >>>>>>> key >>>>>>> at the front of the device. This key will not behave correctly if it >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> pressed twice too quickly, or if the touch screen is used within >>>>>>> about a >>>>>>> second after pressing [Talks]. It is recommended to always wait a >>>>>>> moment >>>>>>> after pressing the [Talks] key on this phone. >>>>>>> . Symbian^3: double-tapping on a scroll bar may lead to a restart of >>>>>>> the phone, especially if it is done quickly after opening a new >>>>>>> window. >>>>>>> . Nokia C5-03: In the List view of the main menu, no cursor is >>>>>>> displayed when moving around with the side keys, so the focus is not >>>>>>> spoken. >>>>>>> As a workaround, use either Grid view, or explore the screen to >>>>>>> select >>>>>>> menu >>>>>>> items. >>>>>>> . Touch phones: currently, there are some limitations to the use of >>>>>>> the on-screen keyboard for text entry. In particular, the menus for >>>>>>> switching to other keyboard layouts and for picking suggestions from >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> T9 >>>>>>> dictionary are not fully accessible. Switching to other keyboard >>>>>>> layouts >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> not recommended, as some of them (e.g. mini-Qwerty or handwriting) >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> yet supported by TALKS, and can be difficult to exit. >>>>>>> . 5th Edition only: On some phones opening the symbol table in the >>>>>>> on-screen keyboard can lead to the keyboard stopping to take input >>>>>>> until >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> press [Exit] to go to the main menu, and then return to the >>>>>>> application >>>>>>> where you were entering text. >>>>>>> . 5th Edition only: text entry into an object announced as "Fields" >>>>>>> (e.g. a date or a time) is not supported well by this version of >>>>>>> TALKS, >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> the virtual keyboard cannot be used with speech. This limits the use >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Calendar and Clock applications that rely on these types of objects >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> date >>>>>>> and time input. >>>>>>> . Internet radio on 3rd Edition phones: long list items start >>>>>>> scrolling horizontally when they become focused, so TALKS will >>>>>>> repeat >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> contents partially a few times until they stop moving. >>>>>>> . N97: training mode will read the digits, rather than the letters, >>>>>>> for the keys in the top row of the QWERTY keyboard. >>>>>>> . E55: [Talks],[digit] shortcuts have been reported to not work >>>>>>> properly on this phone, most likely as a result of the unusual >>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>> layout. >>>>>>> . 3rd Edition (FP1 and FP2): the "Search" application is not >>>>>>> supported. >>>>>>> . 3rd Edition FP2: You will notice a slow response of voice >>>>>>> recognition "beep" after holding [Key 2] when TALKS is not muted >>>>>>> . E75: When using ZOOMS, moving around the screen by holding down >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> cursor keys is currently not possible. The magnified portion of the >>>>>>> screen >>>>>>> always follows the current focus position. >>>>>>> . N96: "Photos" application (and "Photos" submenu of "Gallery") is >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> supported. >>>>>>> . N96 (prior to 20.x firmware), N91 and Nokia 5500: Daisy2Go not >>>>>>> support playback of audio books due to a missing MP3 codec. >>>>>>> 5. FAQ >>>>>>> Q: Your software does not install on my E-Series handset or branded >>>>>>> device, >>>>>>> and reports a Certificate Error! Why? >>>>>>> A: While TALKS&ZOOMS for Symbian itself is certified, and thus can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> installed on any supported handset, the installers for the TTS >>>>>>> engines >>>>>>> (Eloquence or Vocalizer for Mobile) are not signed. E-Series >>>>>>> handsets >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> some branded devices only accept the installation of signed >>>>>>> software, >>>>>>> unless >>>>>>> you turn of the corresponding option inside the Application Manager: >>>>>>> . Open the phone menu. >>>>>>> . Open the App. Manager inside the Tools folder >>>>>>> . Press "Options", then select "Settings". >>>>>>> . Set "Software Installation" from "Signed only" to "All". >>>>>>> . Press "Back" to close the Settings dialogue, then "Exit" to close >>>>>>> the App. Manager. >>>>>>> . Now, you can install the TTS engine. >>>>>>> Another reason could be that the date on your phone is not set >>>>>>> correctly - >>>>>>> as Symbian apps need to be digitally signed, SIS files can only be >>>>>>> installed >>>>>>> if the phone is set to a valid date. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Q: Can I install the new release of TALKS&ZOOMS, while a previous >>>>>>> release >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> active? >>>>>>> A: Yes, if the new version is installed to the same memory location >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> previous release. If you would like to change the memory location, >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> to remove the previous release first! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Q: Why do I get an "Upgrade error" when installing the S60 3rd/5th >>>>>>> Edition >>>>>>> version? >>>>>>> A: The most likely reasons are that you have used a beta release, or >>>>>>> already >>>>>>> have the Nokia TTS driver available that was installed as a separate >>>>>>> file >>>>>>> with version 3.10. Please remove any beta version, as well as the >>>>>>> Nokia >>>>>>> TTS >>>>>>> driver or the Nuance Speech2Go Reader application, before upgrading >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> TALKS >>>>>>> 5.21. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Q: Why do I get an "Invalid serial number" error when trying to >>>>>>> activate >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> demo version of TALKS, even though I have entered the code correctly >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> never used TALKS on this phone before? >>>>>>> A: The most likely reason is that TALKS thinks the demo has already >>>>>>> "expired" because the date on the phone is set incorrectly, usually >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> date in the future. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Q: Why do the side keys on my touch screen phone no longer move the >>>>>>> cursor >>>>>>> after upgrading to the latest version of TALKS? >>>>>>> A: Some keyboard functions, such as [Talks],[digit] shortcuts on the >>>>>>> Idle >>>>>>> screen and the use of the side keys to navigate through menus on 5th >>>>>>> Edition, are only supported after the phone has been rebooted once >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> installing or re-enabling TALKS. >>>>>>> 6. Full compatibility list >>>>>>> 6.1. Current models >>>>>>> This section lists compatible handsets running on Series 60 3rd >>>>>>> Edition >>>>>>> Feature Pack 2, Series 60 5th Edition and Symbian^3, many of which >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> available at least in some markets: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . Keyboard phones: >>>>>>> o Nokia 5320 XpressMusic >>>>>>> o Nokia 5630 XpressMusic >>>>>>> o Nokia 6700 slide (but not 6700 classic!) >>>>>>> o Nokia 6210 Navigator >>>>>>> o Nokia 6220 Classic >>>>>>> o Nokia 6650 fold >>>>>>> o Nokia 6710 Navigator >>>>>>> o Nokia 6720 classic >>>>>>> o Nokia 6730 classic >>>>>>> o Nokia 6790 Surge / slide >>>>>>> o Nokia C5-00 >>>>>>> o Nokia C5-00 5MP (new) >>>>>>> o Nokia E5-00 >>>>>>> o Nokia E52 >>>>>>> o Nokia E66 >>>>>>> o Nokia E71 >>>>>>> o Nokia E71x >>>>>>> o Nokia E72 >>>>>>> o Nokia E73 >>>>>>> o Nokia E75 >>>>>>> o Nokia N78 >>>>>>> o Nokia N79 >>>>>>> o Nokia N85 >>>>>>> o Nokia N86 >>>>>>> o Nokia N96 >>>>>>> o Nokia X5-01 (new) >>>>>>> . Touch screen phones: >>>>>>> o Nokia 5230 Xpress Music >>>>>>> o Nokia 5800 Xpress Music >>>>>>> o Nokia C5-03 (new) >>>>>>> o Nokia C6-00 >>>>>>> o Nokia C6-01 (new) >>>>>>> o Nokia C7-00 >>>>>>> o Nokia E6-00 (new) >>>>>>> o Nokia E7-00 (new) >>>>>>> o Nokia N8-00 >>>>>>> o Nokia N97 >>>>>>> o Nokia N97mini >>>>>>> o Nokia X6 >>>>>>> . Untested, but expected to work: >>>>>>> o Nokia 5228 Xpress Music >>>>>>> o Nokia 5235 Xpress Music >>>>>>> o Nokia 5530 Xpress Music >>>>>>> o Nokia 5730 Xpress Music >>>>>>> o Nokia X7-00 (new) >>>>>>> 6.2. Earlier models (3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 and older) >>>>>>> This section lists handsets running earlier versions of Series 60 >>>>>>> 3rd >>>>>>> Edition which can still be upgraded to run TALKS 5.00. However, they >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> typically no longer available in most regions except as second-hand >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> refurbished devices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . Nokia 3250 >>>>>>> . Nokia 5500 >>>>>>> . Nokia 5700 >>>>>>> . Nokia 6110 Navigator >>>>>>> . Nokia 6120C >>>>>>> . Nokia 6121C >>>>>>> . Nokia 6124 Classic >>>>>>> . Nokia 6290 >>>>>>> . Nokia E50 >>>>>>> . Nokia E51 >>>>>>> . Nokia E60 >>>>>>> . Nokia E61 >>>>>>> . Nokia E61i >>>>>>> . Nokia E62 >>>>>>> . Nokia E63 >>>>>>> . Nokia E65 >>>>>>> . Nokia E70 >>>>>>> . Nokia E90 >>>>>>> . Nokia N71 >>>>>>> . Nokia N72 >>>>>>> . Nokia N73 >>>>>>> . Nokia N75 >>>>>>> . Nokia N76 >>>>>>> . Nokia N80 >>>>>>> . Nokia N81/ N81 8GB >>>>>>> . Nokia N82 >>>>>>> . Nokia N91 >>>>>>> . Nokia N95 / N95 8GB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> END OF NOTES >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Neil Barnfather >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Talks List Administrator >>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit >>>>>>> www.talknav.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >>>>>>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
