ahhhh, i rather use the 6.1.123 for now, because the new 6.1.125 produce those chis chis chis sound. i am using talks 5.21 with eloquence 6.1.123.
-- Allan (WKF) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 20:55 Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 yes i went to the nokia tts and then removed. and reinstalled ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 > did you remove the old eloquence first then install the new one. This is > how I did it and there are no buzzing scratchy or other noises what so > ever. > Eloquence can't be running when you update it. I remember when we went to > new versions Stephen said to switch to the tts voice or other speech when > updating. Because several list members reported problems I decided to > remove the old version completely before installing the new. > Bernard Hemmings > email: bern...@bhemmings.net > Skype: Bernard Hemmings > Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net > ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net > Home: 61-02-95841280 > Mobile: 61-0412177799 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav....@gmail.com> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 > > >> Hi Bernard and all, >> I have a Nokia E72 as well and can confirm the following observations. >> 1. Eloquence US has the strange scratching noise or however you want >> to describe it. >> 2. The symbols list still does not speak. >> >> Pranav >> >> On 8/11/11, Bernard Hemmings <li...@bhemmings.net> wrote: >>> The browser works ok on the e72 however when using the down arrow to >>> hear >>> the links on a page the blindsea web site each link is spoken twice so >>> you >>> have to press the down arrow twice to move to the next link. I don't >>> know >>> about the email app yet. I wonder if the symbol list works on other >>> updated >>> phones as it does not on the e72. >>> >>> Bernard Hemmings >>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >>> Home: 61-02-95841280 >>> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >>> >>> >>>>i got iinstalled properly >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorbu...@btinternet.com> >>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:42 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Make sure your software certificate is set to all. Then you should not >>>>> get the problem. >>>>> -original message- >>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >>>>> From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: 11/08/2011 11:15 am >>>>> >>>>> i got a message unable to install constrained by the sirtificate. >>>>> what >>>>> do i >>>>> do? >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <for...@talknav.com> >>>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>; >>>>> <talks...@freelists.org> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:31 AM >>>>> Subject: [Talks] Release of Talks v5.21 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Nuance have released the new latest version of Talks, available for >>>>>> immediate download from TalkNav's FTP site, www.talknav.com, simply >>>>>> click >>>>>> on Nuance Accessibility, Downloads, then click the link to connect to >>>>>> our >>>>>> FTP, and then follow through. >>>>>> >>>>>> Release notes below, you can also from our site purchase any upgrades >>>>>> to >>>>>> your license that you may need, or indeed, transfer licenses that you >>>>>> may >>>>>> require if you now wish to try out a new phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.21 >>>>>> Release Notification >>>>>> 1. Introduction >>>>>> We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - >>>>>> Nuance >>>>>> TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.21 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th >>>>>> Edition / Symbian^3 for August 11th, 2011. >>>>>> >>>>>> Version 5.21 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses >>>>>> generated >>>>>> after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd >>>>>> Edition). >>>>>> In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer >>>>>> who >>>>>> is >>>>>> currently able to run version 4.11 or 5 without requiring a new >>>>>> license. >>>>>> 2. The new handsets >>>>>> 2.1. Changes to the list of supported phone models >>>>>> The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 >>>>>> "Known >>>>>> Issues" about some limitations): >>>>>> >>>>>> Nokia C5-00 5MP >>>>>> Nokia C5-03 >>>>>> Nokia C6-01 >>>>>> Nokia E6-00 >>>>>> Nokia E7-00 >>>>>> Nokia X5-01 >>>>>> >>>>>> We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. >>>>>> However >>>>>> we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nokia X7-00 >>>>>> >>>>>> See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this >>>>>> version. >>>>>> 3. What's New? >>>>>> This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.21 compared to >>>>>> the >>>>>> previous version (5.20). >>>>>> 3.1. New versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer >>>>>> This update includes new versions of both Eloquence and Vocalizer >>>>>> packages >>>>>> for all languages. Old versions of these voices can still be used, >>>>>> however >>>>>> it is important not to mix different versions of Vocalizer on the >>>>>> same >>>>>> phone, as this can lead to problems when switching to a Vocalizer >>>>>> voice. >>>>>> >>>>>> . Eloquence 6.1.125: this version uses 16kHz audio output on all >>>>>> phones. This both improves compatibility (for example making speech >>>>>> during >>>>>> a >>>>>> call possible on Symbian^3 phones) and audio quality. In addition, >>>>>> this >>>>>> version fixes crashes seen with the US English version packaged in >>>>>> the >>>>>> previous TALKS releases. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are now two installation packages available for US English, one >>>>>> called >>>>>> Eloquence_enu_dct_6_1_125.sisx which contains an extended >>>>>> pronunciation >>>>>> dictionary, and one called Eloquence_enu_6_1_125.sisx without the >>>>>> dictionary, leading to somewhat higher speed and lower memory >>>>>> consumption. >>>>>> >>>>>> . Vocalizer 5.42.1: this version includes the latest updates from >>>>>> ongoing Vocalizer product development, with various improvements >>>>>> across >>>>>> several languages as voices. >>>>>> 3.2. Other changes >>>>>> This section lists further changes to TALKS that were made in this >>>>>> update: >>>>>> >>>>>> Application support: >>>>>> >>>>>> . The new web browser (version 7.3) introduced with the June 2011 >>>>>> firmware update for some phones, e.g. the E52, E72, C5-00 and E5-00, >>>>>> is >>>>>> now >>>>>> supported. This also fixes access to e-mails that was lost for the >>>>>> same >>>>>> reason on these phones. >>>>>> . Some new items can be read on the Home screen, e.g. profile name, >>>>>> Widget Catalogue or Microsoft Communicator entry. >>>>>> . Internet Radio: volume keys are enabled by default also on touch >>>>>> screens. >>>>>> . Internet Radio: Added reading of Now Playing and Station Info >>>>>> screens on 3rd Edition, plus some error popups. >>>>>> . Symbian^3: [long Vol Down] now defaults to [Enter] in web browser, >>>>>> to allow selecting bookmarks with side keys. >>>>>> . Symbian^3: Added support for reading focus in "album cover" view. >>>>>> . An embedded browser without a window title is announced as >>>>>> "browser", to clarify situation e.g. when opening an e-mail body. >>>>>> This >>>>>> indicates that [Talks],[Down] can be used to read the contents of the >>>>>> page, >>>>>> if it is not otherwise accessible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Touch screen improvements: >>>>>> >>>>>> . Disabled use of [Camera] key to force "explore" mode. This feature >>>>>> was introduced in version 5.20, but led to various incompatibilities, >>>>>> for >>>>>> example by blocking the starting of the [Camera] application >>>>>> . Symbian^3: rotated portrait [Talks] and browser keypads by 90 >>>>>> degrees, to better match softkey layout on screen. >>>>>> . The symbol table of the virtual keypad is now being read. Note that >>>>>> the symbol table can still cause the virtual keypad to become >>>>>> inaccessible >>>>>> on some 5th Edition phones. >>>>>> . Symbian^3: Text input into objects announced as "Fields" (e.g. time >>>>>> or date) is now supported. Note that it is still not available on 5th >>>>>> Edition models. >>>>>> . Symbian^3: Virtual keyboard in Ovi Maps Search dialog is recognized >>>>>> in the proper place on the screen. >>>>>> . Added "Change reading of graphics" and "Read date and time" to top >>>>>> row of virtual keyboard for [Talks] key. >>>>>> . Multi-tap gestures are no longer blocked by TALKS. >>>>>> >>>>>> Other changes: >>>>>> >>>>>> . Symbian^3: speech on a call is now supported. As a result, the >>>>>> Caller ID can be read, for example by pressing [TALKS],[Up] when call >>>>>> is >>>>>> ringing. >>>>>> . Disabled T9 dictionary in Manual Registration screen for easier >>>>>> input of license. >>>>>> . You can now press the second key in a TALKS shortcut, such as >>>>>> [Talks],[5], together with the [Talks] key, rather than having to >>>>>> release >>>>>> the [Talks] key first. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bug fixes: >>>>>> >>>>>> . Fixed cases where the virtual keyboard was not being detected in >>>>>> certain situations (also affecting Daisy2go). >>>>>> . Fixed rare application crash when long text is changing, e.g. >>>>>> scrolling appointments in month view of E52 calendar. >>>>>> . Fixed restart of Symbian^3 phones when using zoom gesture in >>>>>> browser. >>>>>> . Fixed recognition of focus in e-mail inbox in "portrait" mode. >>>>>> . Fixed rare incidents where the following text was often being >>>>>> suppressed after a particular menu item (the exact situation where >>>>>> this >>>>>> happened depended very much on voice, speed, audio settings etc.). >>>>>> . Fixed cases where task switcher on Symbian^3 phones was announced >>>>>> when it was not in the foreground. >>>>>> . Braille: partial fix to problems entering SMS messages using >>>>>> Braille. The contents of the message and the number of remaining >>>>>> characters >>>>>> are now updated when either [Space] or [Delete] are pressed, so >>>>>> adding >>>>>> and >>>>>> deleting a space at the end of a message can be used to make sure the >>>>>> message gets sent in full. >>>>>> 4. Known Issues with specific handsets and apps >>>>>> . Nokia browser 7.3: opening drop-down lists by pressing [Select] >>>>>> currently does not work reliably, due to a bug in the browser. >>>>>> . In very rare cases, this version of TALKS may leave the audio >>>>>> channel of the phone open until the next sentence is spoken, leading >>>>>> to >>>>>> higher battery consumption and possibly conflicts with the SMS >>>>>> signal. >>>>>> This >>>>>> is expected to happen only in very specific circumstances, and thus >>>>>> not >>>>>> affect the majority of users. >>>>>> . Nokia E7-00: the default [Talks] key on this phone is the [Menu] >>>>>> key >>>>>> at the front of the device. This key will not behave correctly if it >>>>>> is >>>>>> pressed twice too quickly, or if the touch screen is used within >>>>>> about a >>>>>> second after pressing [Talks]. It is recommended to always wait a >>>>>> moment >>>>>> after pressing the [Talks] key on this phone. >>>>>> . Symbian^3: double-tapping on a scroll bar may lead to a restart of >>>>>> the phone, especially if it is done quickly after opening a new >>>>>> window. >>>>>> . Nokia C5-03: In the List view of the main menu, no cursor is >>>>>> displayed when moving around with the side keys, so the focus is not >>>>>> spoken. >>>>>> As a workaround, use either Grid view, or explore the screen to >>>>>> select >>>>>> menu >>>>>> items. >>>>>> . Touch phones: currently, there are some limitations to the use of >>>>>> the on-screen keyboard for text entry. In particular, the menus for >>>>>> switching to other keyboard layouts and for picking suggestions from >>>>>> the >>>>>> T9 >>>>>> dictionary are not fully accessible. Switching to other keyboard >>>>>> layouts >>>>>> is >>>>>> not recommended, as some of them (e.g. mini-Qwerty or handwriting) >>>>>> are >>>>>> not >>>>>> yet supported by TALKS, and can be difficult to exit. >>>>>> . 5th Edition only: On some phones opening the symbol table in the >>>>>> on-screen keyboard can lead to the keyboard stopping to take input >>>>>> until >>>>>> you >>>>>> press [Exit] to go to the main menu, and then return to the >>>>>> application >>>>>> where you were entering text. >>>>>> . 5th Edition only: text entry into an object announced as "Fields" >>>>>> (e.g. a date or a time) is not supported well by this version of >>>>>> TALKS, >>>>>> as >>>>>> the virtual keyboard cannot be used with speech. This limits the use >>>>>> of >>>>>> the >>>>>> Calendar and Clock applications that rely on these types of objects >>>>>> for >>>>>> date >>>>>> and time input. >>>>>> . Internet radio on 3rd Edition phones: long list items start >>>>>> scrolling horizontally when they become focused, so TALKS will repeat >>>>>> their >>>>>> contents partially a few times until they stop moving. >>>>>> . N97: training mode will read the digits, rather than the letters, >>>>>> for the keys in the top row of the QWERTY keyboard. >>>>>> . E55: [Talks],[digit] shortcuts have been reported to not work >>>>>> properly on this phone, most likely as a result of the unusual >>>>>> keyboard >>>>>> layout. >>>>>> . 3rd Edition (FP1 and FP2): the "Search" application is not >>>>>> supported. >>>>>> . 3rd Edition FP2: You will notice a slow response of voice >>>>>> recognition "beep" after holding [Key 2] when TALKS is not muted >>>>>> . E75: When using ZOOMS, moving around the screen by holding down the >>>>>> cursor keys is currently not possible. The magnified portion of the >>>>>> screen >>>>>> always follows the current focus position. >>>>>> . N96: "Photos" application (and "Photos" submenu of "Gallery") is >>>>>> not >>>>>> supported. >>>>>> . N96 (prior to 20.x firmware), N91 and Nokia 5500: Daisy2Go not >>>>>> support playback of audio books due to a missing MP3 codec. >>>>>> 5. FAQ >>>>>> Q: Your software does not install on my E-Series handset or branded >>>>>> device, >>>>>> and reports a Certificate Error! Why? >>>>>> A: While TALKS&ZOOMS for Symbian itself is certified, and thus can be >>>>>> installed on any supported handset, the installers for the TTS >>>>>> engines >>>>>> (Eloquence or Vocalizer for Mobile) are not signed. E-Series handsets >>>>>> and >>>>>> some branded devices only accept the installation of signed software, >>>>>> unless >>>>>> you turn of the corresponding option inside the Application Manager: >>>>>> . Open the phone menu. >>>>>> . Open the App. Manager inside the Tools folder >>>>>> . Press "Options", then select "Settings". >>>>>> . Set "Software Installation" from "Signed only" to "All". >>>>>> . Press "Back" to close the Settings dialogue, then "Exit" to close >>>>>> the App. Manager. >>>>>> . Now, you can install the TTS engine. >>>>>> Another reason could be that the date on your phone is not set >>>>>> correctly - >>>>>> as Symbian apps need to be digitally signed, SIS files can only be >>>>>> installed >>>>>> if the phone is set to a valid date. >>>>>> >>>>>> Q: Can I install the new release of TALKS&ZOOMS, while a previous >>>>>> release >>>>>> is >>>>>> active? >>>>>> A: Yes, if the new version is installed to the same memory location >>>>>> as >>>>>> the >>>>>> previous release. If you would like to change the memory location, >>>>>> you >>>>>> have >>>>>> to remove the previous release first! >>>>>> >>>>>> Q: Why do I get an "Upgrade error" when installing the S60 3rd/5th >>>>>> Edition >>>>>> version? >>>>>> A: The most likely reasons are that you have used a beta release, or >>>>>> already >>>>>> have the Nokia TTS driver available that was installed as a separate >>>>>> file >>>>>> with version 3.10. Please remove any beta version, as well as the >>>>>> Nokia >>>>>> TTS >>>>>> driver or the Nuance Speech2Go Reader application, before upgrading >>>>>> to >>>>>> TALKS >>>>>> 5.21. >>>>>> >>>>>> Q: Why do I get an "Invalid serial number" error when trying to >>>>>> activate >>>>>> >>>>>> a >>>>>> demo version of TALKS, even though I have entered the code correctly >>>>>> and >>>>>> never used TALKS on this phone before? >>>>>> A: The most likely reason is that TALKS thinks the demo has already >>>>>> "expired" because the date on the phone is set incorrectly, usually >>>>>> to >>>>>> some >>>>>> date in the future. >>>>>> >>>>>> Q: Why do the side keys on my touch screen phone no longer move the >>>>>> cursor >>>>>> after upgrading to the latest version of TALKS? >>>>>> A: Some keyboard functions, such as [Talks],[digit] shortcuts on the >>>>>> Idle >>>>>> screen and the use of the side keys to navigate through menus on 5th >>>>>> Edition, are only supported after the phone has been rebooted once >>>>>> after >>>>>> installing or re-enabling TALKS. >>>>>> 6. Full compatibility list >>>>>> 6.1. Current models >>>>>> This section lists compatible handsets running on Series 60 3rd >>>>>> Edition >>>>>> Feature Pack 2, Series 60 5th Edition and Symbian^3, many of which >>>>>> are >>>>>> available at least in some markets: >>>>>> >>>>>> . Keyboard phones: >>>>>> o Nokia 5320 XpressMusic >>>>>> o Nokia 5630 XpressMusic >>>>>> o Nokia 6700 slide (but not 6700 classic!) >>>>>> o Nokia 6210 Navigator >>>>>> o Nokia 6220 Classic >>>>>> o Nokia 6650 fold >>>>>> o Nokia 6710 Navigator >>>>>> o Nokia 6720 classic >>>>>> o Nokia 6730 classic >>>>>> o Nokia 6790 Surge / slide >>>>>> o Nokia C5-00 >>>>>> o Nokia C5-00 5MP (new) >>>>>> o Nokia E5-00 >>>>>> o Nokia E52 >>>>>> o Nokia E66 >>>>>> o Nokia E71 >>>>>> o Nokia E71x >>>>>> o Nokia E72 >>>>>> o Nokia E73 >>>>>> o Nokia E75 >>>>>> o Nokia N78 >>>>>> o Nokia N79 >>>>>> o Nokia N85 >>>>>> o Nokia N86 >>>>>> o Nokia N96 >>>>>> o Nokia X5-01 (new) >>>>>> . Touch screen phones: >>>>>> o Nokia 5230 Xpress Music >>>>>> o Nokia 5800 Xpress Music >>>>>> o Nokia C5-03 (new) >>>>>> o Nokia C6-00 >>>>>> o Nokia C6-01 (new) >>>>>> o Nokia C7-00 >>>>>> o Nokia E6-00 (new) >>>>>> o Nokia E7-00 (new) >>>>>> o Nokia N8-00 >>>>>> o Nokia N97 >>>>>> o Nokia N97mini >>>>>> o Nokia X6 >>>>>> . Untested, but expected to work: >>>>>> o Nokia 5228 Xpress Music >>>>>> o Nokia 5235 Xpress Music >>>>>> o Nokia 5530 Xpress Music >>>>>> o Nokia 5730 Xpress Music >>>>>> o Nokia X7-00 (new) >>>>>> 6.2. Earlier models (3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 and older) >>>>>> This section lists handsets running earlier versions of Series 60 3rd >>>>>> Edition which can still be upgraded to run TALKS 5.00. However, they >>>>>> are >>>>>> typically no longer available in most regions except as second-hand >>>>>> and >>>>>> refurbished devices. >>>>>> >>>>>> . Nokia 3250 >>>>>> . Nokia 5500 >>>>>> . Nokia 5700 >>>>>> . Nokia 6110 Navigator >>>>>> . Nokia 6120C >>>>>> . Nokia 6121C >>>>>> . Nokia 6124 Classic >>>>>> . Nokia 6290 >>>>>> . Nokia E50 >>>>>> . Nokia E51 >>>>>> . Nokia E60 >>>>>> . Nokia E61 >>>>>> . Nokia E61i >>>>>> . Nokia E62 >>>>>> . Nokia E63 >>>>>> . Nokia E65 >>>>>> . Nokia E70 >>>>>> . Nokia E90 >>>>>> . Nokia N71 >>>>>> . Nokia N72 >>>>>> . Nokia N73 >>>>>> . Nokia N75 >>>>>> . Nokia N76 >>>>>> . Nokia N80 >>>>>> . Nokia N81/ N81 8GB >>>>>> . Nokia N82 >>>>>> . Nokia N91 >>>>>> . 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