I'm glad to hear that they are working on all your phone. This is very good 
news to me beings i do not have a e73 or a n97 model to try myself. Thanks for 
giving a update. Please let us know how your e75 works with the icon file. As 
far as the message that can be included with a persons name! I do not see that 
on the screen with the Talk object VIEWER. So being Talks doesn't see it, there 
isn't a way to get Talks to read it for now on 3rd edition phones. As far as 
that goes, i do not know if it even shows up or not physically on the screen of 
3rd edition phones. Oh on the topic of the n97 and the 5800 express music. When 
i started working on the 5800 express music, i lucked out. All the icons worked 
but one. So i only had to do one of them. So i didn't have to do any trial and 
error to see what icon needed to be define. The 5th edition phones have two 
icons for each entry in the contact list and not one. In this case on 5th 
edition phones, it was the 2nd icon at the end of the information witch was the 
status. However the same process that i have given would work on the 5th 
edition phones as on the 3rd edition phones. But like i said i only had to 
define one of them.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.



-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] Skype for symbian
From: Denise Thompson <deni...@cox.net>
Date: 27/12/2010 5:42 PM

Thank you Steven.
Just in case some of you misunderstood like I did where to put the 
dictionery text file on your phone, it has to go under other and 
inside the talks file. I was putting it in the other file, but it was 
not actually inside the talks file. Now the statuses are being read 
on my n86, also on my e73 and on my n97 minni. On the n97 minni, the 
statuses are read after the contact name, but they are read. In 
addition, on the n97 minni, the little message that people sometimes 
write- I think it's the mood message is also read after the contact 
name and before the status. I like that. I tried to figure out how to 
get the mood message to read on the n86 and e73, but I'm not able to 
figure it out yet.
I'm going to try it on my e75 and see if the dictionary text file 
works with that phone. I'll let you know.
Denise

At 02:02 PM 12/27/2010, you wrote:
>I'll first start out with saying that denises issue is fixed. It was 
>a human error and nothing wrong with the icon file on her n86.
>
>Now to the question she asked.
>
>Ok. This is what i did and it makes it easy to do. First i looked at 
>the contact list using the object viewer. I noticed on 3rd edition 
>phones that it had one icon before each name. I also noted that the 
>subtitle line also had one icon and no text. So we'll start with the 
>subtitle line. When you are in the contact list in Skype you'll 
>notice that there are 5 tabs. You'll also notice when you arrow left 
>and right it doesn't tell you what tab your in. So again make sure 
>that you are on the contact list. Now press soft key2 to back out 
>one screen. On this screen, you'll see a list of 6 items. The last 
>one being settings. That isn't one of the tabs. Now make note of the 
>first 5 items in this list. Nothing else write them down. Now go up 
>to the contact entry and select that one. At this point go into the 
>object viewer down to the subtitle line and select it. Then go down 
>to the only icon on this list and select it. Now arrow down and type 
>in the word contacts for the replacement, and arrow down to 
>application and press right arrow to change it to Skype. Now press 
>soft key2 to exit and answer yes to save your changes. Now you have 
>just gave that screen a name. Press right arrow to the next tab. 
>Repeat the steps above to name the 2nd tab use the 2nd name that you 
>wrote down above. Keep doing this until you get all 5 tabs named. At 
>this point when you arrow left and right you will find that the tabs 
>are spoken.
>
>Ok now get back to the contact list.
>If you remember there is only one icon before each contact entry and 
>we still need to label it. So being we don't know what the icons are 
>for, lets see if we can find a list of some of the status of them. 
>So now press Options. Arrow down to my profile and lets see what is 
>under there. This is PROBABLY going to give you the best chance of 
>finding what you need. Look at that! The first option has to do with 
>status of you. That looks good. So select it. Now you will find a 
>list of 5 items. Arrow throu the list. That away you know what you 
>can change your status to. Ok so far so good. Now we need to see if 
>there is any icons for each of the statuses. So lets bring up the 
>object viewer. Arrow down to the line that shows the status that you 
>wir on. Look at that! There is a icon before it. So far this is 
>looking good. Ok. Select that line. Now arrow down to the icon and 
>select it. Now arrow down to the replacement line and type in the 
>status example online. Now arrow down to application and press right 
>arrow to change it to Skype. Press soft key2 and answer yes to save 
>changes. Now you are back at the status screen. Now you will notice 
>it will say the status twice being it is now reading the icon and 
>the word to the right of it. So far so good. However we still don't 
>know if this icon works for the main contact list. So lets go and 
>see. Why label all of them if it isn't going to work. So press soft 
>key2 to back out of my status screen until you get back to the 
>contact list. Now arrow throu some of them and see what happens. 
>Wow!! Look at that! It now speaks online. Cool! That is great! So 
>lets go and label the other status icons. So go back into my profile 
>and online status and label the other icons. Note you will find that 
>two of them are the same. Back that one offline. Now when you go 
>back to the contact list, you will find most if not all of them have 
>a status that is read out.
>
>The above is my thought while i was working on labeling the Skype 
>icons. This away you can see how i did it and my thoughts while i 
>was doing it. Remember some of you long time followers of this list! 
>I said i do computer programming. I creat startup, shutdown, and 
>code that watches the computer for issues. This is why i took the 
>steps above and now you may have a better understanding of why i 
>took the way i did at labeling the icons.
>
>Ok that is all of that. Now you may notice'! There are still a few 
>icons that aren't being spoken on the contact list screen for some 
>of the contacts. In this case! You will need to use a computer to 
>see what the status of those people are. Then go and label them in 
>Talks using the object viewer. Remember you must be on the same 
>person on your phone that doesn't have the labeled icon as your pc 
>in order to label the icon on the phone. That away you are on the 
>correct icon and have the correct status from the pc.
>
>Note. The phone will not show all the statuses that your pc will 
>show. There are a total of about 6 of them for the phone.
>
>Signed: Stephen Giggar
>Skype: dr-phone.
>
>Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
>
>
>-original message-
>Subject: Re: [Talks] Skype for symbian
>From: Denise Thompson <deni...@cox.net>
>Date: 27/12/2010 2:54 PM
>
>Steven how do you tell what the icons are. I don't even know what
>should be there so how do you know what to call them. Do you compare
>them to the PC version to see what should be showing? I don't use the
>PC version, but I guess I could set it up if it helps to know which
>icons are there.
>Denise
>
>
>At 01:43 AM 12/27/2010, you wrote:
> >No sighted help isn't needed to change the icons if they are needed.
> >I'm totally blind and do all my icons if they aren't in Talks to
> >start with. Most of the time it is very easy to tell what a icon is
> >for. This is true for Skype on 3rd edition phones.
> >
> >Signed: Stephen Giggar
> >Skype: dr-phone.
> >
> >Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> >No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
> >
> >
> >
> >-original message-
> >Subject: Re: [Talks] Skype for symbian
> >From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net>
> >Date: 27/12/2010 2:14 AM
> >
> >I'm sure I can do the dictionary file ok but is sighted help needed with the
> >icon adjustments.  I have not downloaded the new files yet as I was not sure
> >re the icon alterations that are needed.
> >Bernard Hemmings
> >email: bern...@bhemmings.net
> >Skype: Bernard Hemmings
> >Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
> >ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
> >Home: 61-02-95841280
> >Mobile: 61-0412177799
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgig...@gmail.com>
> >To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
> >Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Talks] Skype for symbian
> >
> >
> > > Just as a note! If you put the dictionary files on the memory card, this
> > > will not work for the n86. Also if you have another Skype dictionary file
> > > in phone memory and you put the new one on the 8gb drive, this would also
> > > cause it not to be picked up. Just some thoughts.
> > >
> > > Signed: Stephen Giggar
> > > Skype: dr-phone.
> > >
> > > Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> > > No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -original message-
> > > Subject: Re: [Talks] Skype for symbian
> > > From: Denise Thompson <deni...@cox.net>
> > > Date: 27/12/2010 1:12 AM
> > >
> > > No I haven't defined the icons of who's on line, etc. I don't know
> > > how to do that without sighted assistance. Otherwise they're just a
> > > bunch of numbers in the object viewer and I don't know which one is
> > > which. I did use the dictionery file from blindsea. I put it on my
> > > n86 and it didn't change anything either. I've turned the phone on
> > > and off a bunch of times since extracting it to the other file where
> > > the installed talks file is.
> > > Denise
> > >
> > >
> > > At 11:03 PM 12/26/2010, you wrote:
> > >>Did you define the icons for who is offline, online and the like?
> > >>Did you try the icon file from the blind sea web site in the zip Skype
> > >>file?
> > >>
> > >>Signed: Stephen Giggar
> > >>Skype: dr-phone.
> > >>
> > >>Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> > >>No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>-original message-
> > >>Subject: Re: [Talks] Skype for symbian
> > >>From: Denise Thompson <deni...@cox.net>
> > >>Date: 27/12/2010 12:36 AM
> > >>
> > >>Just wanted to let folks know that I'm using Skype on my e73 which is
> > >>not a supported phone and it works fine. I don't see who is on line,
> > >>etc, but calling and receiving calls works fine.
> > >>Denise
> > >>
> > >>At 05:14 PM 12/26/2010, you wrote:
> > >> >Have you tried it on your pc to make sure it works? The reason i
> > >> >ask, is Skype had a system wide outage within the last 4 days and
> > >> >everything may not be back yet?
> > >> >
> > >> >Signed: Stephen Giggar
> > >> >Skype: dr-phone.
> > >> >
> > >> >Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> > >> >No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >-original message-
> > >> >Subject: [Talks] Skype for symbian
> > >> >From: "Alex Stone" <alex.st...@gmail.com>
> > >> >Date: 26/12/2010 6:38 PM
> > >> >
> > >> >I'm having a problem with the latest version of Skype where I can't add
> > >> >a
> > >> >contact by e-mail address, when I try it takes me out of Skype and back
> > >> >to
> > >> >the menu. Using the latest version of Talks on an n86, is anyone else
> > >> >experiencing this?
> > >> >
> > >> >Cheers
> > >> >
> > >> >Alex
> > >> >
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