i think this is the answer i do this too david. Unless I'm being completely stupid but cant understand here what the big deal is. Its a simple case of finding a work around which works. Tariq ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem.
> This is what I did on my N86. > Most of the time it prpre-selected my wireless LAN. > Very occasionally it tried to connect through t Mobile but it seems to > have > got the point now and is now pretty much offering LAN as the default all > the time now. > > Regards > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] > On > Behalf Of tariq > Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2010 15:40 > To: Talks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem. > > if you change the settings to always ask you will be asked which > connection > you wish to use each time you wish to connect. Only way round it I > reckon. > This way you can connect to your wireless lan or alternative connection. > Tariq > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem. > > >> Hi Stephen even if you remove the sim and format the phone the telstra >> destinations stay in place. The only way they can be removed is via a >> text message sent by them then you read back the password then they can >> remove them. I assumed when I got the replacement phone there would be >> no > >> destinations or no defined access points. I even installed talks with >> out > >> the sim card in the phone and while in ten minute mode checked this. I >> then formatted the phone hoping to delete the telstra settings but they >> were still there. Had the access points and destinations not been >> present > >> on this replaced handset I was going to create them manually and had >> noted > >> what was to go in each field from the last handset. This is why I asked >> the techs at nokia service if they could delete the destinations after >> they had removed all the access points this is when they told me they can >> not remove them. >> >> Bernard Hemmings >> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >> Home: 61-02-95841280 >> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgig...@gmail.com> >> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem. >> >> >>> Bernard >>> >>> Just a thought! If you get a new handset or you try a format! Leave the >>> Sim card out in either case. This away when the phone comes up initially >>> after the format with no sim in it or it is a brand new phone with no >>> sim > >>> in it. Then install Talks with no Sim in it. Then try setting up your >>> WiFi access point and see if it works with no Sim ever being in the >>> phone. This away it is hoped that there will be no access point in the >>> phone at all when starting out. >>> >>> If this works with Talks with no sim ever being in the phone! Then put >>> the sim in the phone and power it up. When you get the messages from >>> telstra Cancel out of them with SoftKey2, do not accept them. Then go >>> into your inbox on the phone and delete the messages! Do not open them. >>> >>> Now try again with using your access point with Talks and see what >>> happens. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Signed: Stephen Giggar >>> Skype: dr-phone. >>> >>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. >>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net> >>> To: "talks" <talks@talksusers.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:13 AM >>> Subject: [Talks] a major problem. >>> >>> >>>> Well lists after nokia replaced the wifi chip in my e72 it still would >>>> not connect to the web via wireless networks there networks as well as >>>> mine. they gave me a replacement handset but unfortunately not a new >>>> one > >>>> but a phone that was owned before by another telstra user. Guess what >>>> it has the same problem. >>>> You see telstra send 4 destinations containing 3 access points. >>>> interestingly 2 of the destinations have the same name >>>> "internet" >>>> These protected destinations can not be removed not even by a hard >>>> reset. I believe either the two destinations having the same name or >>>> the > >>>> fact they can not be deleted cause the format process to abort when the >>>> data can't be deleted. After all formats never go round a problem >>>> unless a skip process is built in. with my old e72 if the wlan wizard >>>> was open it would connect to sites addresses but this would not permit >>>> built in apps that access their own servers to work. >>>> With this handset I tried the way they used but still no go the invalid >>>> server name keeps coming up. The status bar indicates it's connected >>>> to > >>>> the router and the lan works perfectly when I use the telexy software >>>> or > >>>> the home media feature. >>>> I think Nokia this week when I go back to the service centre will have >>>> a > >>>> go at blaming talks. The handsets they tried last week would connect >>>> to the web via wifi networks and they will point out that talks was not >>>> installed. The telstra protected destinations were on this handset >>>> when I got it there was no sticker on the screen and it did not have >>>> that new mobile phone smell they all have when you take them from their >>>> box. If you try and alter these protected destinations the error >>>> unable > >>>> to edit protected settings comes up. you can open the destinations and >>>> delete the access points. The nokia techs told me they can't delete >>>> the > >>>> destinations either which I find a little difficult to believe, but if >>>> this is the case then it's no wonder the format or hard reset does not >>>> complete. As other e72 owners are using the lates firmware with out >>>> this problem that is obviously not the cause. If you format the >>>> handset > >>>> with these telstra destinations in place you get a beep after 20 >>>> seconds > >>>> or so and the next time you power up the phone I think it has another >>>> go > >>>> at formatting because you don't hear the power up music and 30 seconds >>>> after reboot you hear a beep. My replacement handset did this the >>>> first > >>>> time I powered it up. >>>> I don't know if other providers lock their destination in this way. >>>> However it looks as if I may have discovered a problem in that >>>> handsets running the same symian version as the e72 and their owners >>>> use > >>>> telstra if a hard reset is performed the phone will not be able to use >>>> the internet via their wireless networks. Keep in mind nokia techs >>>> tried to use the net on 3 different WLANS with my e72 and they got the >>>> same error as I do at home. >>>> I've tried both factory reset and hard reset which won't make the >>>> problem go away. As I am sick of visiting the nokia service centre I'm >>>> hoping someone on the list who know more about phone than I do can >>>> suggest something. Hopefully I am wrong re the telstra protected >>>> destinations. Currently every web address I enter including >>>> http://www.blindsea.com >>>> returns the error invalid server name. When using the carrier's access >>>> point it works perfectly. >>>> Now a more synical person than myself would say it's Telstra trying to >>>> make users use their data services, I'm not claiming this yet but I do >>>> wonder how many others have run in to the problem but are to busy to >>>> spend days at their local nokia service centre and just use telstra's >>>> data services and keep their usage to a minimum. all I have done is >>>> install talks and set up my access point. No other software has been >>>> installed on this replacement handset. >>>> >>>> Bernard Hemmings >>>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >>>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >>>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >>>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >>>> Home: 61-02-95841280 >>>> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talks mailing list >>>> Talks@talksusers.com >>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>> >>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>> and >>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talks mailing list >>> Talks@talksusers.com >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5444 (20100912) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5445 (20100912) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
