Thanks to all who offered advice. After a lot of experimentation I think I have got a usable radio. I thought I would set out the steps and how I overcame the difficulties in case others come across these problems. 1. Thanks to those who suggested I mute Talks whilst using the radio . The radio became much more reliable once this step is taken. Much of my confusion earlier was due to the fact that the radio often works with talks not muted but not always.
2. I have learnt that the Nokia station directory web application is useless for obtaining the frequencies for many BBC Radio stations. My advice is to avoid it. Basically although I asked for London frequencies, it installed completely incorrect frequencies. For example BBC Radio 2 was installed by the application as having a frequency of 88.00. In fact it is broadcasting here on 89.10. Incorrect frequencies were also inserted for BBC Radio 3 and Radio 4 . 3. Unfortunately the BBC website has only marginally better information as the alleged link to a page giving frequency for your area contains no information about frequencies at all. All that I could find elsewhere on the BBC web sites were vague bands of frequencies used by stations . 4. I finally got the idea of using my digital radio in FM mode. I then navigated to the desired stations and got my daughter to read off the frequencies from the display. 5. I then edited the station list to insert the correct frequencies for the stations I wanted. 6.The radio works fine now and I am happy to navigate by pressing left and right as I know that clear transmissions of the BBC stations I need will be there and fairly easy to access. 7. I think it is possible to use the station list to find a station with the following procedure. But I need to experiment more. A. With talks not muted. B. Go to stations C. Navigate to the desired station. D. Press back to go to main radio window. E. Press enter. The station will not play yet. F. Press back to exit the radio application. G. Mute talks H. Press enter to start the radio station with hopefully your selected station playing. A bit long winded but I think it may work. The radio is fine for those occasions you are out but have not bought a main radio to listen to. Regards David Griffith. -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar Sent: Saturday, 04 September 2010 14:43 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] FM radio Difficulty When Talks is talking, the listen option will not show up. I just wait 5 seconds for Talks to close the audio channel and the Radio starts playing on it's own. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] FM radio Difficulty > Thanks > I have just given the phone to my sighted daughter and she is finding this > radio application confusing as well. > It is all a bit baffling. > I have the frequencies for about 20 stations loaded automatically using > the > radio station directory feature. > This works by taking you to the web and then you press the button to save > the list after specifying your location. > I have also entered various radio 4 frequencies manually again without > success. I did all this without having to mute talks. > > Bizarrely however, the radio will often not work when I go into it without > adopting the following procedure. > Enter the FM radio application. If you are lucky it may start but often It > will be silent. > If it is silent pull out the headphones. > Talks will announce that the FM radio will not work without headphones. > Plug in the headphones again. > The enhancement window will come up so you have to press enter to accept > the headphones. > The radio will now jolt into life and start playing with very good > reception and sound . > Very strange. > I have used 3 different earphones which are all producing identical > results. > Once the radio is playing I can indeed change the stations by pressing > right > or left , but cannot find Radio 4 Radio 3 or radio 2 despite their being > listed in the station list. I cycle around stations I do not want to > listen > to. > The only direction to tune appears to be left and right. If I press up or > down the radio immediately stops and it is impossible to restart it > unless > I again take out the earphones, and repeat the rigmarole above > > According to the manual all that is required is to go to the station list > and then select listen. But it is the listen button which is missing, even > for those stations which I know I have listened to today. > > Regards > > David Griffith > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] > On > Behalf Of Brian Campbell > Sent: Saturday, 04 September 2010 12:37 > To: 'Talks Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [Talks] FM radio Difficulty > > Hi David, > > It's a while since I set my radio up on the N86, but I can assure you that > it is manageable and I'll do what I can to get you started. > > The way I did it was to get a list of frequencies for different radio > stations from the internet. The BBC, I think, publish a frequency guide. > As > I say, it's a while ago, so it's all a bit hazy, but you will find > something > by googling it. Then, with TALKS not muted, you can enter the frequencies > of > the stations you want to listen to manually. Once this is done, then > navigate to the FM radio to a point where you know you can launch it > without > any spoken prompts. Then mute TALKS and launch the radio. From here on, > you > can scroll through your selected stations with the left and right arrows. > > I hope this makes sense and good luck. > > Best wishes, > Brian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] > On > Behalf Of David Griffith > Sent: 04 September 2010 12:20 > To: 'Talks Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [Talks] FM radio Difficulty > > Thanks for the swift reply and the heads up on the help files. I am > surprised Nuance has not sorted this out. > > I am afraid that muting Talks has no affect on the radio functionality, > well > it does not start the radio at any rate. > > What happens is that, you can bring up a station list without problem. > However pressing enter or the context key on the station simply brings up > the option to move, edit or delete, but not listen. > Pressing back will take you to the main Radio window where again it will > be > sullenly silent. > Going back out to the main application window and pressing enter will > re-enter the application whereupon the radio will now often start up, but > the station playing will have no relationship to the station you have left > selected in the station list. > So far I have found without rhyme or reason Heart, XFM, LBC, and BBC > London > playing when I enter the application. > I think it may be an accessibility issue as the manual seems to believe > that > there is a listen button somewhere on the station list but I cannot find > it. > I would settle for just having Radio 4 playing and never change the > station. > > Regards > > David Griffith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] > On > Behalf Of Brad Keller > Sent: Saturday, 04 September 2010 11:52 > To: Talks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Talks] FM radio Difficulty > > As for the radio set the station or what ever it is you want to listen to > then try muting talks. Now as for the the help screens Talks will not read > the help menus on symbian 9.3 phones because it is a sort of HTML system > and > > talks will not read it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 5:45 AM > Subject: [Talks] FM radio Difficulty > > > I am having a problem using the FM radio on the Nokia N86 and also more > importantly it appears that I cannot read help files. > > 1. Problem with the FM Radio > - I have downloaded a station list from the web and there are many > stations > listed. > According to the text manual I have downloaded to my PC there should be an > option to listen, alongside options such as edit move and delete. > Whilst Talks is reading out the edit, move and delete options, no listen > option is being announced. > The radio is nevertheless working as sporadically and inconsistently it > starts up when I enter the FM radio application and I can then navigate > manually by pressing left or right. If I touch any other key the radio > stops > and I have to exit the application and re-enter to start the radio again. > > 2. The second problem is that if I select the option for help it takes me > to > various help files. However , it does not read the contents of the help > window. I have tried pushing the down cursor and pressing Talks then down > cursor. > Neither works. > > It would be good if someone could free me of these frustrations. > > Regards > > David Griffith. > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5421 (20100903) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5422 (20100904) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5422 (20100904) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5422 (20100904) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5422 (20100904) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5422 (20100904) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5423 (20100904) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
