On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 19:30, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Which military service are the Italian Carabinieri? The US Marines? > What about the Guardia di Finanza? > Yep, as mentioned previously, there will be a number of fine, fuzzy lines (& yes, both words apply!) to sort out, mainly between "Police" & "Military". I can tell you that the US Marines belong to the US Marine Corps, which comes under the overall command of the US Navy. The British Royal Marines, however, are directly under command of the Royal Navy, with no intervening command level. No idea on the other two‽ I agree we will probably find use for both, a specific operator tag and a > more generic attempt to put the things into boxes. > Yes, I agree. In regard to operators - "USMC" or "United States Marine Corps", & the same for all the other names ie abbreviated or spelt if full ? Another couple of issues I've spotted as I've been looking at some of the current listings for military=barracks. Ex-military bases, now often either historical precincts / tourist attractions / possibly ruins only eg Fort Lytton https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-27.41058/153.15263, https://fortlytton.org.au/ & many more similar worldwide. They were, but are not now military areas, so how should we tag them? museum + tourist attraction + was:landuse=military + was:military=base, or ignore all reference to "military"? The other one is Cadet units eg Army / Navy / Air Force Cadets? I don't know about other countries, but in Australia at least, while they are named "Australian Army Cadets", they are classified as a youth group only, & not linked to the military forces in any way. So what should we tag their depot / training building as? There used to be a tag for club+youth, but this was scrubbed in favour of amenity <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity>=community_centre <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre> + community_centre:for <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:community_centre:for>=juvenile <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:community_centre:for%3Djuvenile&action=edit&redlink=1> The problem I have with that is that these buildings are not open to the general public, or for use by other community groups, so they wouldn't meet the usual criteria. Break - I've just found that there actually are a handful of club=army_cadets (8), =air_cadets (5) & =sea_cadets (2) already in use, although all are undocumented, so they will be fine. Are we all in agreement though, that there should be no reference to "military" against Cadet groups (except, of course, for those countries where they *are* actually part of the military!)? One other thing I've realised from this exercise is that the "Military" page needs further cleaning-up, but let's get this one out of the way first! :-) Thanks Graeme
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