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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 22:55, Robert Delmenico <rob...@rtbk.com.au> wrote: > > > Perhaps the use of man_made could be dropped all together as it is somewhat > superfluous. > > Ie. man_made=bridge is the same as bridge=yes > > Perhaps all of the existing man_made=[value] tags should be changed to > [value]=yes > > > Rob > >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020, 9:46 am Robert Delmenico, <rob...@rtbk.com.au> wrote: >> Please read this article: >> >> https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2guides/guides/pep/index-fra.html?lang=fra&page=usage_7_gender_neutral_writing_questions_usage >> >> >> >> >> 'Not really, and "man_made" does not mean that it was made by males.' >> >> Yes it does. Why would society also use women-made? >> >> >> >> >> >> 'It seems to me that a lot of males like to speak for women on these issues. >> Why? Can't they speak for themselves?' >> >> Hence why I said who am I to decide! >> >> >> >> >> 'Marriam-webster: >> == >> Definition of man-made >> : manufactured, created, or constructed by human beings' >> >> >> https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/03/not-everything-is-man-made-13-amazing-inventions-you-can-thank-women-for/ >> >> Should we use the term man-made if it is made entirely by women? >> >> Also, check out the translations in the Collins dictionary - what do you >> notice? >> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/man-made >> >> >> >> >> >> 'As I mentioned in another email, we do use terms such as midwife.' >> >> Midwife actually translates as 'with woman'. The wife part relates to the >> person giving birth. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020, 8:44 am Niels Elgaard Larsen, <elga...@agol.dk> wrote: >>> Robert Delmenico: >>> > >>> > I originally put the call out really to gauge if there was much interest >>> > in changing >>> > the term man_made because of its use of 'man', and was interested in >>> > hearing the >>> > thoughts from other mappers as really this proposal isn't just mine. If >>> > there was no >>> > interest I would just abandon it and move on - that's how the system >>> > works yeah? >>> > >>> > Here's my thoughts based on the feedback received so far >>> > >>> > Regardless of the origin of the term, the current use of 'man' is to >>> > identify adult >>> > males. >>> >>> Not really, and "man_made" does not mean that it was made by males. >>> >>> > I don't think the use of 'man_made' offends women, but who am I to decide >>> > that as I >>> > am a adult male. >>> >>> It seems to me that a lot of males like to speak for women on these issues. >>> Why? Can't they speak for themselves? >>> >>> > I feel that by using any masculine or feminine terms where a suitable >>> > alternative >>> > exists instills the stereotypes based on these terms. >>> >>> Marriam-webster: >>> == >>> Definition of man-made >>> : manufactured, created, or constructed by human beings >>> == >>> >>> >>> > We don't refer to firefigters as firemen anymore, not do we refer to >>> > airline >>> > attendants as airline hostesses. The world is changing and OSM should >>> > adapt to these >>> > changes if there is enough interest from the OSM community. >>> >>> As I mentioned in another email, we do use terms such as midwife. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Niels Elgaard Larsen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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