20 paź 2020, 00:52 od rob...@rtbk.com.au:
> Perhaps the use of man_made could be dropped all together as it is somewhat
> superfluous.
>
> Ie. man_made=bridge is the same as bridge=yes
>
Are you aware that we have bridge=yes
and man_made=bridge used with a
different meaning?
>
> Perhaps all of the existing man_made=[value] tags should be changed to
> [value]=yes
>
>
> Rob
>
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020, 9:46 am Robert Delmenico, <> rob...@rtbk.com.au> > wrote:
>
>> Please read this article:
>>
>> https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2guides/guides/pep/index-fra.html?lang=fra&page=usage_7_gender_neutral_writing_questions_usage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 'Not really, and "man_made" does not mean that it was made by males.'
>>
>> Yes it does. Why would society also use women-made?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 'It seems to me that a lot of males like to speak for women on these issues.
>> Why? Can't they speak for themselves?'
>>
>> Hence why I said who am I to decide!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 'Marriam-webster:
>> ==
>> Definition of man-made
>> : manufactured, created, or constructed by human beings'
>>
>>
>> https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/03/not-everything-is-man-made-13-amazing-inventions-you-can-thank-women-for/
>>
>> Should we use the term man-made if it is made entirely by women?
>>
>> Also, check out the translations in the Collins dictionary - what do you
>> notice?
>> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/man-made
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 'As I mentioned in another email, we do use terms such as midwife.'
>>
>> Midwife actually translates as 'with woman'. The wife part relates to the
>> person giving birth.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2020, 8:44 am Niels Elgaard Larsen, <>> elga...@agol.dk>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Delmenico:
>>> >
>>> > I originally put the call out really to gauge if there was much interest
>>> in changing
>>> > the term man_made because of its use of 'man', and was interested in
>>> hearing the
>>> > thoughts from other mappers as really this proposal isn't just mine. If
>>> there was no
>>> > interest I would just abandon it and move on - that's how the system
>>> works yeah?
>>> >
>>> > Here's my thoughts based on the feedback received so far
>>> >
>>> > Regardless of the origin of the term, the current use of 'man' is to
>>> identify adult
>>> > males.
>>>
>>> Not really, and "man_made" does not mean that it was made by males.
>>>
>>> > I don't think the use of 'man_made' offends women, but who am I to
>>> decide that as I
>>> > am a adult male.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that a lot of males like to speak for women on these issues.
>>> Why? Can't they speak for themselves?
>>>
>>> > I feel that by using any masculine or feminine terms where a suitable
>>> alternative
>>> > exists instills the stereotypes based on these terms.
>>>
>>> Marriam-webster:
>>> ==
>>> Definition of man-made
>>> : manufactured, created, or constructed by human beings
>>> ==
>>>
>>>
>>> > We don't refer to firefigters as firemen anymore, not do we refer to
>>> airline
>>> > attendants as airline hostesses. The world is changing and OSM should
>>> adapt to these
>>> > changes if there is enough interest from the OSM community.
>>>
>>> As I mentioned in another email, we do use terms such as midwife.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Niels Elgaard Larsen
>>>
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