Breaking change come with a cost. Whether it is worth is a question should be asked.
在 2020年10月19日週一 21:04，Dave F via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> 寫道： > Irrelevant of any implied meaning, 'man_made' always appeared to be a > clunky, catch-all tag. OSM was being a bit lazy. > I mean, *everything* is either man made or natural. We really should come > up with more specific, accurate key tags. > > DaveF > > On 19/10/2020 12:45, Jo wrote: > > It would be best to first consider the consequences of such a change. > Weigh the benefits against what we lose in time (humanhours?) and > resources/energy. And then there is still the point that many objects will > get new timestamps for a change that's not really a change. > > Anyway, artificial sounds like made up to me. artificial=dyke, not really > a dyke, but it looks like it. > > man_made has the advantage of being succinct. Most people will immediately > understand what is meant by it. Almost nobody will think women were not > involved in the creation of the feature. > > Polyglot > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:42 PM Robert Delmenico <rob...@rtbk.com.au> > wrote: > >> Nice investigating Nathan, >> >> I would be open to using artificial instead of human_made. >> >> >> Would it be best to change the proposal or start a second proposal? >> Change man_made= to artificial= >> >> Rob >> >> >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 21:14, nathan case <nathanc...@outlook.com> wrote: >> >>> Pros and cons aside, “human-made” is not a term that is in current >>> widespread usage. As a native English GB speaker, I find it clunky and >>> somewhat distracting. >>> >>> A better gender neutral term might be “artificial”, which is already a >>> synonym for “man-made” and is already widely used. >>> >>> Indeed, the Handbook of Nonsexist Writing suggests: "artificial, >>> handmade, hand-built, synthetic, manufactured, fabricated, machine-made, >>> and constructed" as options instead of man-made. Presumably the majority >>> (if not all) of OSM "man-made" tags relate to objects which are not >>> naturally occurring. Therefore "artificial" seems to hold. >>> >>> Other sources: >>> https://writingcenter.unc.edu/tips-and-tools/gender-inclusive-language/ >>> >>> https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Usage/faq0053.html >>> https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/man-made >>> >>> An issue may arise if artificial is already being used as a tag however. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Nathan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing > listTagging@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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