Is it maybe more universal to map
strictly objective parameters instead?
It seems for me that mapping
length, armrest in the middle and width
would be both far more objective and
potentially useful also for other purposes
10 Sep 2020, 20:10 by r...@technomancy.org:
> I asked about this ~1½ years ago too (
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-February/thread.html#43244
> ). In the end I thought `sleepable:physical=yes/no` is an accurate tag, and
> fits the OSM philosophy well (*
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-February/043270.html )
> (though I've only added <10 tags for that
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sleepable%3Aphysical )
>
>
> I created a simple pic4review misson, which you can duplicate if you want. (
> https://pic4review.pavie.info/#/mission/1313 ). You could also suggest a
> StreetComplete quest
>
> There was some reddit threads:
> •
> https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/avbmsb/is_there_a_preferred_way_of_mapping_possible/
> •
> https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/8rs7zf/how_to_map_antihomeless_bench/
>
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, at 6:28 PM, Vucod via Tagging wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> 1) I wish to tag benches that were designed to avoid that someone lie
>> on it. There has been some related discussions in the past
>> (https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/avbmsb/is_there_a_preferred_way_of_mapping_possible/
>> and
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/8rs7zf/how_to_map_antihomeless_bench/
>> )
>> but with no conclusion. It is possible that it has retained people to
>> map that kind of objects. Today, there is nearly no such information in
>> OSM. Maybe it is because it is not its place? Nobody expressed that
>> clearly.
>>
>> So, I started to use the tag *lying_hindrance=yes* on some benches. In
>> case of doubts, this can be verified when doing surveys, by lying on
>> the bench. This could also be determined most of the time by looking at
>> a few things. The length of the bench, the presence of a slope, the
>> presence of separation between the seats of the bench, and by checking
>> if it is a standing bench. Note that length was refused as an official
>> key for bench and that the key for the separation doesn't exist
>> (armrest does not specifically concern the inner part of the bench).
>> The tag could be extended by specifying the hindrance type: armrest,
>> standing_bench, short_length, slope, ...
>>
>> What do you think about this tag? Do you have alternative ideas?
>>
>> 2) Also, I wish to map something else related to hostile architecture
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture>. I wish to map
>> devices that are placed near the entrance of shops to prevent people to
>> sit there (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdHfvsCP7A,
>> https://twitter.com/ArticuleE/status/1222197697333145603,
>> https://twitter.com/ArticuleE/status/1215931276944924672). I was going
>> to add a combination of tags on the building where the shop is located:
>>
>> sitting_hindrance=yes
>> sitting_hindrance:location=street_side
>>
>> It can also be verified quite easily. A general tag like
>> hostile_architecture={sitting_hindrance|lying_hindrance} would also be
>> quite useful for mappers to rapidly understand the purpose of these
>> tags.
>>
>> What do you think about it?
>>
>> Thanks for your time
>>
>> Vucod
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