Hi Francesco,

I will create the superroute and route relations as an example. If you
don't like the solution, feel free to remove those relations again
afterwards. I will only fix a small error in the original relation, but
keep it for now, so both solutions can be analysed next to each other.

I don't really like the idea of a role 'transfer' on all those railway ways
in a single route relation. In the case of your example, there is only a
single railway, but in theory there could be one for each direction of
travel of the train. So if you want to describe that in the route relation,
you would need role forward/backward in the route relation, which cannot be
combined with role transfer.

Jo

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 11:24 AM Francesco Ansanelli <franci...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Polyglot,
>
> it sounds good to me. But what roles do you suggest for such superroute?
> Many thanks
> Francesco
>
> Il giorno dom 30 ago 2020 alle ore 11:00 Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>> How would you feel about mapping it with a superroute relation?
>>
>> The superroute would then contain 3 route relations.
>>
>> 1 for the first part by bicycle
>> 1 for the middle part by train
>> 1 for the last part by bicycle
>>
>> If we give the train part a different role in the superroute, we can make
>> it such that the continuity line in JOSM is still drawn.
>>
>> This solution might also work to indicate that certain parts of a bicycle
>> route need to be done on foot. Although creating separate route relations
>> for such short stretches may feel like overkill.
>>
>> The other 'interruption' of a bicycle route I can think of, is where a
>> ferry needs to be taken. In theory this could also be a funicular. In
>> Antwerpen there is a special bus service that takes cyclists through a
>> tunnel under river Schelde (for commuters, where a ferry was abolished,
>> it's unlikely we'll create a route relation for this, but not
>> impossible/unthinkable).
>>
>> In JOSM PT_Assistant there will soon be a convenience button to extract
>> route relations from route or superroute relations, to make a conversion
>> from route to superroute+route relations easier to do.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 9:59 AM Francesco Ansanelli <franci...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> a new example that could benefit of this proposal:
>>>
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10605853
>>>
>>> Can someone please go ahead and make a proposal?
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>> Best regards
>>> Francesco
>>>
>>> Il mer 24 giu 2020, 23:25 Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> ha
>>> scritto:
>>>
>>>> For the record, I think a transfer role is a generic solution  for the
>>>> issue raised here, applicable to the cable car transfer and other types of
>>>> transfer in routes, but I will not propose a new role value any time soon.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who wants to do it has my support, though.
>>>>
>>>> Vr gr Peter Elderson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op za 20 jun. 2020 om 09:13 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
>>>> dieterdre...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sent from a phone
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 20. Jun 2020, at 01:58, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Normal OSM access is assumed to be access=yes, where some access is
>>>>> restricted then in OSM it should be marked *=no.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> for roads access=yes is assumed, it is not necessarily the default for
>>>>> all kind of features.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers Martin
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