This may all sound tangential or nitpicking to you, but to those with the right equipment, the tags you propose, depending on scenario would simply be misleading.
A photo would help to understand the exact place, but I think you could easily push your foldable bike through narrow passages if you rotate your handlebar and/or fold your pedals. If you can fold your bicycle in 15 seconds, it integrates a visually protective cover and has small luggage-wheels for moving when folded, it would not cause a problem to take a 100m detour in the park if it could save you kilometers and/or going into dangerous traffic. I've seen such designs in mass production, but wouldn't want to do much advertising here. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 12:06 PM Volker Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > The boxes business is most likely leading us a bit up the Nymphenburg > Schlosspark garden path. > The real issue is routing for bicycles. > Many (bicycle) routers I know would route you against (short) stretches of > one-way roads or on short stretches of (bicycle=no) footpaths, so in those > cases it is important to be sure that you distinguish between hard-no and > soft-no for bicycles. > I have come across another type of hard-no for bicycles in the form of > chicane-type cycle barriers too narrow to push a bicycle (or a wheelchair) > through. > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 11:48, bkil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have yet to see a park where they limit the size of luggage I can carry >> with me (within rational limits). >> >> I think local law always defines what a bicycle is exactly. I don't think >> that they have the right to search your box to check whether it contains >> legally defined bicycles - that could only be done by a police officer and >> would need a warrant, so I think we can always carry bicycles in a box. >> Mind you that luggage could also have wheels. >> >> For circumventing carry-on rules, it was common knowledge that if you >> removed the front tire, it could not be ridden anymore and could be >> understood to be not a bicycle, rather it was classified as "bicycle >> parts". Some thought this could be used to transport bicycles on a train >> for free, but it was actually oversized for the definition of luggage, so >> the actual deciding factor was always the kindness of the staff. >> >> If you carry a front wheel and your friend carries the rest, can you >> enter the park? Both of you are only carrying parts, and none of you >> possess bicycles. >> >> On the other hand, the terms of services of transport companies usually >> have written provisions for carrying on folded bicycles irrespective of >> size limits (for example, they even allow folded mountain bikes). >> >> Just for kicks: >> >> https://ecofriend.com/bike-that-folds-into-an-a3-paper-size-box-is-rightly-named-the-a3-bicycle.html >> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:30 AM Martin Koppenhoefer < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> sent from a phone >>> >>> On 22. Jul 2020, at 11:07, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> bicycle_pushed=no was suggested in previous discussion, see >>> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-November/thread.html#49056 >>> >>> >>> >>> and then you would also need >>> bicycle_carried=no >>> and >>> bicycle_carried_in_a_box=no >>> (the latter is rare and could be seen as another way of saying >>> carrying_boxes=no or maybe carrying_boxes:conditional =no@(any_dimension >>> > 0.3m) >>> >>> And we would have to define what „bicycle“ means. >>> >>> Are these bicycles? >>> 1. >>> https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/F-8AAOSwstJZXeV2/$_12.JPG >>> >>> 2. >>> http://img0.biker-boarder.de/detail_oxp1/g13_edge_raw.jpg >>> >>> 3. >>> http://www.unicyclist.com/filedata/fetch?id=2476281 >>> >>> 4. >>> >>> https://photos.netjuggler.net/monocycle-kris-holm-24p/grande/Monocycle-Kris-Holm-24-pouces-isis1.jpg >>> >>> etc. >>> >>> Cheers Martin >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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