> > And there is (c) a non-urban trail with legal access for bicycles but in > practice only usable with a mountain bike but lacking a MTB scale tag as > the hiker, like me, who mapped it has no clue what MTB scale to put on it. >
This is likely the default way of interpreting highway=path with no additional tags. I just commented on a new mapper using highway=footway for the above example. The response I got was that it should probably be footway, as the path was leading to stairs and as such "not accessible" by bicycle and therefore a footpath. With no additional tag I would interpret highway=footway as an urban path with some kind of smooth surface, which was not the case here and I think it should be highway=path and possible bicycle=no & mtb=no. *I still think the distinction needs to be much more clear between path|footway|cycleway for all the cases when no additional tag is being used. *Should a footway be used for a natural forest path where it's unlikely that MTB:s will go? No. But the wiki description leaves the door open. Fine with JOSM messing up combined foot- and cycleways (I tried to look, but couldn't find an issue tracker to discuss that misbehaviour with the JOSM developers). In JOSM I get a warning if I add a combined foot- and cycleway without adding a segregated tag. *If highway=path with no surface tag would get the same warning in both JOSM and iD, we'd be getting at least somewhere.* Good that this discussion has lead to some improvement of the description of sac_scale. As has been mentioned, *sac_scale and mtb:scale need values for "no"* as well, to actively say that "although this is a path, it doesn't qualify for a hiking path or an mtb singletrail". *And the description for those tags would need to emphasize when not to use the tag, or use the "no" value. Otherwise sac_scale=hiking makes no distinction whatsoever between a paved path and a hiking path that may be quite technical.* /Daniel > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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