On 4/30/20 12:20 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote:
place=square seems to fit the bill
place=square exists within the place=* hierarchy which , as documented in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place, is used to characterize named locations. What we tag here is almost always unnamed.
Our goal is to record the nature of that space - and most importantly its functionality as a common free space.
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 23:18, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree, the area in this spot (https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA) is a moderly sized open area of bare earth, with buildings on 3 sides and a paved streets on a long side. It appears to be used for sports and recreation, and for walking. I suspect it might be a "de facto" leisure=pitch - in the USA it would be an "empty lot" used for soccer/baseball/etc. It could also be a highway=pedestrian + area=yes - an open pedestrian area or "town square" - those are usually paved in some way in developed countries, but that's not a requirement. It does not appear to be a park. There was not any formal discussion to deprecate leisure=common, and mappers are certainly free to keep using that tag. It was marked as deprecated by one wiki user, about a year ago. But since the tag it is not well defined, it will be hard for database users to interpret what it means. On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 1:41 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Apr 29, 2020, 21:37 by skqu...@rushpost.com <mailto:skqu...@rushpost.com>: On 4/29/20 14:34, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Here is a 360° picture of a square in Dakar: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA - larger than a street (it occupies a whole city block), used as a multipurpose common area (pickup soccer games are a staple but parking or lounging around also occur, and the occasional popular event) and usually surfaced with sand or whatever the ground is. We have long tagged it leisure=common (389 ways in Senegal and 486 in Mali according to http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN) - which is a bit of stretch from the British legal definition, but worked well enough and did not conflict with its British usage. But leisure=common is now deprecated So, what should we use instead ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon suggests using leisure=park - which isn't too much of a stretch functionally but evokes greenery that does not occur here (though British commons are just as green and we were happy with leisure=common)... Any other ideas ? Or I'm going to use leisure=park+surface=sand ! While leisure=park might work, there is also leisure=recreation_ground to consider. leisure=recreation_ground sounds fitting to me and is without baggage of legal status bundled into leisure=commons This specific place looks like leisure=pitch. And for example in Poland some sport pitch may be used for an occasional event, festival of various types. Note: I am unfamiliar with on-the-ground situation in Africa
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