On 20.04.2020 16:52, Paul Allen wrote:
> Amenity is much larger and much more of an eclectic hodge-podge than
> social_facility.  I'm not even sure that amenity=social_facility is a good
> idea, but at least you can then refine it with social_facility=*.  Moving
> do amenity=nursing_home just makes amenity a bigger mess than it
> already is.  And a nursing home is a social facility, not some sort of
> recreational POI for the general public.

amenity=social_facility with subkeys social_facility=* and social_facility:for=*
was voted in favour in 2010 with an unusual 96% on a quorum of 28.
The only vote against was just about dropping the amenity key above.
It turned out as a big help to keep values out of the top-level amenity=* space.
The proposal explicitly excluded facilities for the "treatment of specific 
acute medical
conditions", giving hospitals as example.

With about a dozen values that have significant usage I cannot see that there
were "too many different features lumped together", quite in contrast to 
amenity=* itself.

The problem comes with the the dynamics of amenity=nursing_home and 
social_facility=group_home:

If you look into the history graphs [1] you see that in 2011 there was 
apparently a massive import
of amenity=nursing_home;
which was partially removed in 2012, and partially converted
into social_facility=group_home and social_facility=assisted_living

social_facility=group_home was an over-ambitious attempt, coming from the 
examples of the
social_facility proposal, to tag a "Retirement Home" as amenity=social_facility 
+
social_facility=group_home + social_facility:for=senior, which blurred the 
distinction
of which homes provide nursing.

The new value social_facility=nursing_home provides clarity and is becoming 
organically popular
without mechanical changes.

It would be helpful if somebody could provide insight in the 2011 import and 
the 2012 mechanical
edit, and by which criteria the nursing_homes were separated into group_home 
vs. assisted_living.

It appears to me that in particular the imported objects nobody knows and 
nobody cares about.

Tom


[1]
https://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/social_facility/nursing_home&***/amenity/nursing_home&***/social_facility/group_home&***/social_facility/assisted_living

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