On 20.04.2020 16:52, Paul Allen wrote: > Amenity is much larger and much more of an eclectic hodge-podge than > social_facility. I'm not even sure that amenity=social_facility is a good > idea, but at least you can then refine it with social_facility=*. Moving > do amenity=nursing_home just makes amenity a bigger mess than it > already is. And a nursing home is a social facility, not some sort of > recreational POI for the general public.
amenity=social_facility with subkeys social_facility=* and social_facility:for=* was voted in favour in 2010 with an unusual 96% on a quorum of 28. The only vote against was just about dropping the amenity key above. It turned out as a big help to keep values out of the top-level amenity=* space. The proposal explicitly excluded facilities for the "treatment of specific acute medical conditions", giving hospitals as example. With about a dozen values that have significant usage I cannot see that there were "too many different features lumped together", quite in contrast to amenity=* itself. The problem comes with the the dynamics of amenity=nursing_home and social_facility=group_home: If you look into the history graphs [1] you see that in 2011 there was apparently a massive import of amenity=nursing_home; which was partially removed in 2012, and partially converted into social_facility=group_home and social_facility=assisted_living social_facility=group_home was an over-ambitious attempt, coming from the examples of the social_facility proposal, to tag a "Retirement Home" as amenity=social_facility + social_facility=group_home + social_facility:for=senior, which blurred the distinction of which homes provide nursing. The new value social_facility=nursing_home provides clarity and is becoming organically popular without mechanical changes. It would be helpful if somebody could provide insight in the 2011 import and the 2012 mechanical edit, and by which criteria the nursing_homes were separated into group_home vs. assisted_living. It appears to me that in particular the imported objects nobody knows and nobody cares about. Tom [1] https://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/social_facility/nursing_home&***/amenity/nursing_home&***/social_facility/group_home&***/social_facility/assisted_living _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging