On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 18:21, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Am Mo., 20. Apr. 2020 um 19:01 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com > >: > >> Because "amenity" has come to mean "miscellaneous." >> > > this is trolling, > No it isn't. I'm entirely serious. Amenity has come to mean miscellaneous. This is not a good thing. because amenity=social_facility social_facility=food_bank still has amenity > as the "main" key, if we made it amenity=food_bank we would not change > anything in this regard. > Yes, it would change matters a lot. It means that hierarchical menus are possible. Instead of being presented with dozens (potentially hundreds) of amenity values to scroll through one can select social facility and get a sub-menu. This is easier and faster. > > >> Maybe you need a better editing app on your mobile device. :) >> > > I am quite satisfied with both, > I am not satisfied with flattening hierarchies just to keep you happy. I need a better reason than the editors you choose to use mean the rest of us should suffer from your choices. the mobile and the desktop OSM editing solution I have chosen, and in both > instances, it is very tedious to type tags like "social_facility:for" and > "social_facility", which both start the same for many characters > If we flatten everything out, moving everything directly under amenity so that we don't need sub-tags, then that will mean MORE values start with the same letters. Unless we make each value a UID such as 6b*3kjn. Flattening makes matters worse for you, not easier. BTW, good editors narrow down selections as you type. Or present you with sub-menus based upon hierarchies. , while all the other tags hardly require more than 1 or 2 letters, > sometimes 3-4, e.g. highway is typically completed from "hi" and amenity > from "am". Any solution where tags are typed in, will benefit from more > concise tag names. > And will suffer from the sort of flattening you propose. Because the more things that get unique amenity values rather than being sub-tagged, the more values will have several first letters in common. Note that conciseness isn't required with a good user interface. Whatever other merits your preferred editing solutions have, a good UI for tag selection does not appear to be one of them. -- Paul
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