Both! If I enter a new route or alter it after survey, I often have to edit
ways. Cutting a way into sections, mostly. After a painful process of
making other people very unhappy, I finally know how to handle/repair all
the broken relations that causes, before uploading.

At the same time I notice that others do edits without repairing damage to
relations (not only routes, also turn restrictions). Most of these mappers
are not aware of the "damage", and if they are, they can't repair it. I
know many hiking people who start to make simple edits to the map on their
trips, but stop because of the trouble it causes.

Fr gr Peter Elderson


Op vr 16 aug. 2019 om 09:56 schreef Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>:

> Peter, I think Martin's question comes from a misunderstanding. You
> probably meant the route relations were broken by someone editing before
> you. Martin seems to have understood that you have to check all those route
> relations, after you edited them yourself.
>
> Jo
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:52 AM Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Josm of course. Is there another relation editor that can handle large
>> nested route relations spanning up to say 4000 Km? In josm, before the edit
>> I open all the relations that may be affected, check if they are correct as
>> far as that section is concerned,  then perform the edit, then apply the
>> change to each relation and check again if all is well. When I am not in a
>> hurry and the affected relations have other gaps, I repair those as well.
>>
>> Mvg Peter Elderson
>>
>> > Op 16 aug. 2019 om 02:11 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer <
>> dieterdre...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > sent from a phone
>> >
>> >> On 16. Aug 2019, at 00:20, Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not seldom I have to check and repair 10-15 route relations after one
>> edit (most often a split of a way to allow a route to attach there) on the
>> map.
>> >
>> >
>> > which editing software do you use?
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers Martin
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