On 12/04/2019 14:24, Volker Schmidt wrote:
@Mateusz

I just got alerted that you added a paragraph on the wiki Page OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions)>
in which you state:

" Note that explicit tagging of access repeating what following tables imply may be still useful. For example bare highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=path <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath> may mean either "surveyed and all defaults apply" or "mapped from LIDAR, not surveyed, may be private". In contrast highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=path <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath> + foot <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:foot>=yes <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:foot%3Dyes> + bicycle <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle>=yes <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Dyes> is more clear what is its meaning."

That addition from Mateusz seems reasonable to me - he's just alerting people to how things might get mapped, and how to make things clearer.  Also "may still be useful" is not telling people to add e.g. "motor_vehicle=yes" to all primary roads (something unlikely to be useful).


I do not agree with that statement. If highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=path <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath> has the default implied access values foot <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:foot>=yes <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:foot%3Dyes> + bicycle <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle>=yes <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Dyes> (and horse=yes) then that means that an armchair mapper should add access=unknown to the tagging.

It doesn't matter what you think J Random Mapper _should_ do; what they _actually_ do is what is important (and I'm someone who uses access=unknown more than most).

Best Regards,

Andy



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