Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 16:49:54 +0100
From: Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com>
To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
        <tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Drain vs. ditch


Who is to decide?

Mvg Peter Elderson

Op 2 feb. 2019 om 15:38 heeft EthnicFood IsGreat <ethnicfoodisgr...@gmail.com> 
het volgende geschreven:


Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 14:22:20 +0100
From: Hufkratzer <hufkrat...@gmail.com>
To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
    <tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch


If we were discussing a proposal I would agree, but replacing
waterway=drain by waterway=ditch + usage=drainage or sth. like that is
not such an easy task.  We already have 800k drains. I assume it
requires a proposal with volting to deprecate drain, adaption of the
presets, perhaps a mass edit. Who will do all this? Is the advantage of
using waterway=ditch + usage=drainage instead of waterway=drain so
immense that it is worth the effort?

[...]

This goes to the very core of the tagging policy of OSM.  The current state of OSM tags 
is a screwed up mess.  Because we are "prohibited" from going back in time and 
correcting bad tagging decisions that were made in the past, we are stuck with trying to 
shoehorn new tag definitions into a chaotic, disorganized system. The way I see it, if we 
were allowed to conduct mass edits to revise poorly-planned tagging choices, we would 
save ourselves a lot of trouble in the long run.  It would be painful at first, adjusting 
to the changes, but I think it would be worth it.  Don't we all agree that if we were 
starting all over from scratch, we would give a lot more thought to tagging?

Mark



Ha ha, that would be the topic of a whole other discussion.

Mark



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