For buses it's exceptional they stay at a stop longer than strictly necessary, so I think the arrival times should be optional. If the tag is added, it should have the same amount of entries as the departures though.
Sometimes I do see buses that 'linger' at stops, but that's usually because they are ahead of their schedule by more than a few minutes. Jo Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 12:02 schreef djakk djakk <djakk.dj...@gmail.com>: > Jo, I did not try yet, but I think there should be a departure timetable > AND an arrival timetable (trains often stop several minutes). And this, per > stop. > > The mapper sees a timetable at a bus stop, he puts it directly into a > relation associating the bus stop and the route. This enables to partially > map the line. > > The first stop has departure timetable only. > The last stop has arrival timetable only. > An intermediate stop has both. > > > Julien « djakk » > > > Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 11:38, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> I took it from the official timetables and generally this line doesn't >> suffer too much from congestion. But yes. If the timetable shows bigger >> variation in delay between stops over the day, then another method would be >> necessary. >> >> Obviously this is what the operator plans to happen. In practice buses >> will run later than their scheduled times. We have access to real time >> information for each stop though. I think I'm going to add the direct urls >> to the stops themselves. >> >> For the lines/routes a direct link to a url of this kind is probably more >> helpful than trying to store all the detail: >> https://www.delijn.be/nl/lijnen/lijn/3/301. >> >> But I'm trying to explore how we could add timetable information for >> regions where this kind of service doesn't exist. >> >> Jo >> >> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 11:22 schreef Mateusz Konieczny < >> matkoni...@tutanota.com>: >> >>> So this assumes that bus travels for the same time between stops both >>> during night and >>> during rush hour? >>> >>> 3. Nov 2018 11:19 by winfi...@gmail.com: >>> >>> When done this way, the departures in the tags are for the stop with >>> role 00:00. >>> >>> Jo >>> >>> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 11:09 schreef Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm looking into this timetable relation and how it could be >>>> implemented: >>>> >>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8885374/history >>>> >>>> This is for a simple line... >>>> >>>> I added all the stops of the route relation and added the most common >>>> times to get from one to the next. I realise things can get even more >>>> complex if these differentials change during the day due to congestion that >>>> was planned for in the time tables. >>>> >>>> When done this way, it's not a timetable relation for each stop/route >>>> pair. >>>> >>>> I'll try to do something similar for a more complicated situation. >>>> (telescopic line, i.e. not all trips are the same length) >>>> >>>> Polyglot >>>> >>>> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 10:21 schreef Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 03/11/2018 04:55, djakk djakk wrote: >>>>> > I do not see why timetables are hard to maintain ? Most bus lines do >>>>> > not change their schedules for years (even in big cities, Paris for >>>>> > example). Because changing the schedule means buy a new bus and hire >>>>> > new drivers. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> OSM has been described as a "do-ocracy". Basically, if you think that >>>>> other people should do something why don't you do it in your area for >>>>> a >>>>> period of time (maybe a couple of months) to demonstrate that it is >>>>> possible and practical? >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Tagging mailing list >>>>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >
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