Maybe we can put that optional piece of information inside the departures key : departures=7:40,7:45 ; 8:40,8:45 -> means the train or the bus arrives at the stop at 7:40 or 8:40 and leaves 5 minutes later.
Arrival and departure time are separated by a comma, and different departures are separated by a semicolon. If no comma, it means departure time only - except for the last stop : means arrival time only. Should we use 0-24-25 hour format ? (when a trip starts at 23:45 and finishes 30 minutes later at 0:15, which is sometimes written 24:15 in a gtfs. ) Julien “djakk” Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 12:53, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> a écrit : > For buses it's exceptional they stay at a stop longer than strictly > necessary, so I think the arrival times should be optional. If the tag is > added, it should have the same amount of entries as the departures though. > > Sometimes I do see buses that 'linger' at stops, but that's usually > because they are ahead of their schedule by more than a few minutes. > > Jo > > Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 12:02 schreef djakk djakk <djakk.dj...@gmail.com>: > >> Jo, I did not try yet, but I think there should be a departure timetable >> AND an arrival timetable (trains often stop several minutes). And this, per >> stop. >> >> The mapper sees a timetable at a bus stop, he puts it directly into a >> relation associating the bus stop and the route. This enables to partially >> map the line. >> >> The first stop has departure timetable only. >> The last stop has arrival timetable only. >> An intermediate stop has both. >> >> >> Julien « djakk » >> >> >> Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 11:38, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >>> I took it from the official timetables and generally this line doesn't >>> suffer too much from congestion. But yes. If the timetable shows bigger >>> variation in delay between stops over the day, then another method would be >>> necessary. >>> >>> Obviously this is what the operator plans to happen. In practice buses >>> will run later than their scheduled times. We have access to real time >>> information for each stop though. I think I'm going to add the direct urls >>> to the stops themselves. >>> >>> For the lines/routes a direct link to a url of this kind is probably >>> more helpful than trying to store all the detail: >>> https://www.delijn.be/nl/lijnen/lijn/3/301. >>> >>> But I'm trying to explore how we could add timetable information for >>> regions where this kind of service doesn't exist. >>> >>> Jo >>> >>> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 11:22 schreef Mateusz Konieczny < >>> matkoni...@tutanota.com>: >>> >>>> So this assumes that bus travels for the same time between stops both >>>> during night and >>>> during rush hour? >>>> >>>> 3. Nov 2018 11:19 by winfi...@gmail.com: >>>> >>>> When done this way, the departures in the tags are for the stop with >>>> role 00:00. >>>> >>>> Jo >>>> >>>> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 11:09 schreef Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking into this timetable relation and how it could be >>>>> implemented: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8885374/history >>>>> >>>>> This is for a simple line... >>>>> >>>>> I added all the stops of the route relation and added the most common >>>>> times to get from one to the next. I realise things can get even more >>>>> complex if these differentials change during the day due to congestion >>>>> that >>>>> was planned for in the time tables. >>>>> >>>>> When done this way, it's not a timetable relation for each stop/route >>>>> pair. >>>>> >>>>> I'll try to do something similar for a more complicated situation. >>>>> (telescopic line, i.e. not all trips are the same length) >>>>> >>>>> Polyglot >>>>> >>>>> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 10:21 schreef Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/11/2018 04:55, djakk djakk wrote: >>>>>> > I do not see why timetables are hard to maintain ? Most bus lines >>>>>> do >>>>>> > not change their schedules for years (even in big cities, Paris for >>>>>> > example). Because changing the schedule means buy a new bus and >>>>>> hire >>>>>> > new drivers. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> OSM has been described as a "do-ocracy". Basically, if you think >>>>>> that >>>>>> other people should do something why don't you do it in your area for >>>>>> a >>>>>> period of time (maybe a couple of months) to demonstrate that it is >>>>>> possible and practical? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Tagging mailing list >>>>>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tagging mailing list >>>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>
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