On 04/09/18 21:04, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:


2018-09-04 12:42 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com <mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>>:


    Summarizing recent comments:
    Martin wrote:
    > what’s wrong with passing place? Seems to describe the same thing

    I thought so too until I noticed that the Wiki says passing_place
    is used for nodes only, using logic that escapes me, so I began
    searching for another method. I also considered modifying that
    definition so it includes ways but was reluctant to start that
    battle even though that still seems a good solution.




I would be in favor of adding the possibility to tag highway=passing_place on ways, there is already a tiny fraction tagged on ways (although the percentage currently makes it clear they are outliers). There's a general problem with using nodes for features like these: they don't have a direction, so you can't state where the widening takes place.

Passing places are not long.
Most of them are just long enough to squeeze in a car and caravan ... just.
You are supposed to come to a complete stop to let others pass in either direction.
They are usually on single lane, two way roads.

So a passing place .. you have to stop in it. You cannot keep moving as you would with any distance of extra lane.



For the lanes approach: I would only use this if the place has some length (more than 5-10 meters you may typically find on a track) AND if there are lane markings (general requirement for lanes).

Cheers,
Martin


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