Agree Dave.

As I said it could be a park but without on the ground survey or other info it's unknown.

These are quite often parks and should be tagged as leisure=park but onwards from that is the reason it is a park.

In these situations the park could also be a reserve or easement for the pipe line.

The discussion on talk_au was that it could be tagged leisure=park park=pipeline_reserve.

Cheers
Ross


On 08/02/17 22:02, Dave Swarthout wrote:
Thanks Ross,

It *might *be a park but we can't be sure. The mapper only says source=Bing. For all we know he's merely making an educated guess. His changeset comment suggests he has also added some "pipeline reserves" although a quick look doesn't turn any up.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ross Scanlon <i...@4x4falcon.com <mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote:

    This is the aerial imagery of the area the original poster is
    talking about:

    https://binged.it/2kN1tfC

    To all intents it could be a park.

    In osm it's at:

    http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073
    <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073>

    Cheers

    Ross



    On 08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout wrote:
    Yes, I see now you're asking about the land that the pipeline
    either runs over or through.

    I would avoid the term reserve, however. I generally think of a
    reserve as a larger area, often a park or historic area, e.g.,
    the Gabo Island Lighthouse Reserve in Canada or the Hinchinbrook
    Lighthouse Reserve, which is a Park in Valdez-Cordova County,
    Alaska. There is also this reserve which is related to your
    illustration; the huge area known as the National Petroleum
    Reserve in Alaska, but I would not want it to be confused with
    your tagging targets.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska>

    Maybe landuse=pipeline would be a good pick?

    On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com
    <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        On 08-Feb-17 06:51 PM, François Lacombe wrote:
        Hi Warin,

        Do you have pictures of such areas plz ?

        I don't see anything corresponding to 'reserve'

        All the best

        Not personally ... and it is a fair way away. As I say ..
        reported on the Australian group.
I assume there is a sign locally to advise on the 'pipeline reserve'.

        Gas pipe lines cover fair distances in Australia ..

        One line is 1,300 km here
        
https://www.apa.com.au/our-services/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/
        
<https://www.apa.com.au/our-services/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/>

        The reserve might be up to 25 meters wide from
        https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/
        <https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/>
        Photo of their warning sign
        http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg
        <http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg>
        I have seen similar signs for gas and fibre optic lines in my
        wanderings, some warning of a restriction in use of area
        above the line - thus advising of a restrictive reserve.

        There will be local storm water, potable water lines too.
        Long distant buried communication lines too, a number over
        8,500 km. At least some of these will have 'reserves' evident
        on the surface.


        Le 8 févr. 2017 08:24, "Warin" <61sundow...@gmail.com
        <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

            That tags the pipe line itself.

            The request is to tag the area set aside for a pipe line
            ... a reserve.



            On 08-Feb-17 04:38 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
            There is already a tagging structure for pipelines that
            takes into account whether it's underground or
            overground. See

            http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252
            <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252>

            for a section of the Trans Alaska Pipeline. However,
            the land area above the pipeline, which is restricted
            for casual access throughout Alaska, has no special
            tagging.

            On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Warin
            <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>
            wrote:

                Hi,

                A question came up on the Australian list that
                would be more appropriate here.

                "My local area (and I'm sure many others) have lots
                of pipeline reserves.

                I'm really not sure how to tag these. They appear
                to have

                public access for walking at least. (One local one
                has a sign
                disallowing golf...) Some others appear to be
                across private
                land, and i'm less interested in those, I'd really
                like to
                show those ones with public access.

                
examples:http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073
                
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073>


                I've tagged them as leisure=park previously, and paths
                          evident on the ground have just been
                tagged highway=path.


                Any ideas?"

                My comments:

                I note the pipeline is not visible ... I assume
                underground and the
                location is not evident so you cannot map the pipe
                line itself.

                As it is a landuse ... ?
                I would tag landuse=pipeline

                However ... some pipe lines cross farms,
                residential areas ... these have legal easements
                through the associated properties.
                And these would be already tagged with a landuse.

                Humm power lines are mapped ... should there be
                similar provision for other infrastructure?
                Perhaps a 'infrastructure' tag that can be used for
                all?
                infrastructure=pipeline
                infrastructure=sewer
                infrastructure=water
                infrastructure=phone

                Note it should be used for the area that is
                affected by/reserved for the infrastructure, not
                just the infrastructure itself?





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