New, yes, but increasingly common. One of my recent flights was on a 777 equipped with both electric (115 v American "standard") and USB outlets. While many of those chargers you speak of John, the iPhone chargers for example, plug into a wall socket the output goes to the phone via the USB socket at the rear.
@Martin, I think the two words connected with a colon is the best choice. It's already in use: socket:USB=* The standard American plug has a hard-to-remember and bulky tag "socket:nema_5_15=2". It would be nice to have a simpler alternative. But then, most countries have their own scheme for naming these things and I don't see standardization coming to the world (or to OSM) anytime soon. Hell, we're still using inches and pounds over here! We probably should stick with what's already defined in the wiki. Still, if I saw a charging station advertising 120v AC, I would be quite sure what that was, and also what sort of socket it would employ. The voltage tag would be an obvious clue for data consumers. On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 2:17 PM, John F. Eldredge <j...@jfeldredge.com> wrote: > Electric outlets that have a USB-style connector, for charging cell > phones and other portable devices, are fairly new. I don't recall seeing > any until about a year ago. So, there is not yet a common name for them, to > distinguish them from conventional electric outlets that offer only 120V > AC. I have seen the USB charging kiosks in airports, but, again, am not > aware of a specialized name for them. I charge my phone using a small > adapter that plugs into a regular wall outlet or extension cord. > > On May 23, 2015 3:23:48 PM "pmailkeey ." <pmailk...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 23 May 2015 at 17:47, Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The Wiki article clearly teaches that the amenity=charging_station tag >>> was designed with vehicles in mind. >>> >> >> Well if it's a VEHICLE charging station, it should have said that. They >> didn't specify what changing it was in the name - so it's surely open for >> all charging stations. >> >> >> >> >>> And I reckon for those of you who expressed concern about rendering, >>> that part of it isn't up to me, or us, and will be resolved later. >>> >>> The big question is whether to expand the use of the tag so it includes >>> devices other than vehicles. The article mentions bicycles but doesn't go >>> into detail about bicycle charging_stations except to say "There are >>> some different types of charging stations. E-Bikes e.g. can be charged at >>> an domestic wall socket." To my mind, that opens the door to expanding the >>> use of the tag. >>> >> >> Asbolutely ! >> >>> >>> Also the notion of socket:type=USB or socket:USB=* (a number of sockets >>> or "yes") seems fine. The other keys mentioned in the Wiki entry can be >>> used just as they are in many other similar situations: >>> fee=* >>> operator=* >>> access=* >>> voltage=* >>> opening_hours=* >>> >>> These stations, or in the case of the Seattle airport, entire sections >>> of seats, have "domestic wall sockets" offering a way to charge laptops as >>> well as the USB output. The tag socket:nema_5_15=* denoting is bulky to say >>> the least but if that's the established tag for the receptacles found in >>> American homes, then it might work here too. >>> >> >> What do 'standard Americans' call their sockets ? We shouldn't be using >> technical names on OSM unless that's the common name for them. Voltage is a >> useful bit of data. >> >> >>> >>> If we don't do it this way, clearly another amenity tag will be needed. >>> I hate to start down that path because I know it will be difficult to >>> achieve any consensus. In the meantime I have tagged those areas with >>> amenity=charging_station until we resolve this question. >>> >>> Regards >>> Dave >>> >> >> -- >> Mike. >> @millomweb <https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction> - >> For all your info on Millom and South Copeland >> via *the area's premier website - * >> >> *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, >> property & pets* >> >> T&Cs <https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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