On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 13:06 +0100, Marc Gemis wrote: > > In Belgium and The Netherlands we have tagged all the regional walking > > networks as foot. With this system of walking networks it is possible > > to plan walks as short as 2-3 km and and long as a few hundred > > kilometers. For me the short walks are no hikes, but that might be the > > wrong interpretation. > > > > > > We had some discussion about this (foot vs hiking) a few years ago. We > > decided to stay with foot because that was used in The Netherlands and > > Germany. And because some of those networks cross the border, it did > > look appropriate to change it only in Belgium. > > > In UK English, the language of OSM, hike has extreme connotations. > Hiking implies a route over extreme ground and a forced high pace. If I > was to describe one of my ramblers walks as 'a hike' I would not get > many takers. > I question this usage, mostly because UK Scouts seem to match US usage, which would call what you're calling "a hike" more like "a march", or if it's really bad, "a death march." US Scouts might hyperbolize intentionally to "Rattan Death March" for extreme distances over rugged terrain. But then again, keep in mind that the UK and Canada has been calling American Boy Scouts the "Just Add Water" Scouts for at least three decades now. But considering the distances involved for American Scouts, do you really blame 'em for carrying a dry filter pump and a single canteen, with an excess of dehydrated food? A hike on the level of what you see from London to Edinburgh is outside the realm of what any Scout in the UK program would ever see, but is entirely within the realm of any full-program (ie, 13-yo and First Class ranked) Scout in the US program. A hike might involve a simple and fairly enjoyable requirement run (like Troop 592 Raleigh Hills, OR uses at Silver Falls State Park) or could be a two-week long footbound trip to the panhandle and back that the oldest troop in the US uses (Troop 1, Pawhuska, Osage Nation, Okahoma; originally a Lone Scouts of America unit, predating the Boy Scouts of America's existence, Pawhuska's existence in Oklahoma, and Oklahoma's annexation of Indian Territory).
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