> The flood prone areas are not designed to let you cross a river

Yes. I think that is exactly the important point and a very good
description/criterion. flood_prone=yes for things that are _not_
designed to be flooded. And waterway=*, ford=* … for things that _are_
designed/expected to be flooded.
Lukas Sommer


2015-01-20 4:09 GMT+00:00 johnw <jo...@mac.com>:
> I think using flood_prone on places designed to handle water (like a ford)
> is incorrect. The sections of a freeway that are closed off during flooding
> (a lane is closed because storm waters cannot properly drain away, or
> cuttings under train crossings with flood level markers because the road
> floods - both are flood prone, but their job isn’t to let you cross a
> waterway.
>
> Fords can be dangerous to cross in storms, but their job is to let you cross
> in the presence of water.  The flood prone areas are not designed to let you
> cross a river, they just end up being flooded because of inadequate
> drainage.
>
> a ford https://goo.gl/maps/aBWlg
>
> flood prone (with a warning sign with lights when it is flooded)
> https://goo.gl/maps/9aFXV
>
> doesn’t seeing a ford automatically mean it’s flood prone? it handles river
> crossings ^_^
>
> Javbw
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:38 AM, johnw <jo...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Some part of road have
> concrete parts that are flood_prone during cyclone.
>
> How can we (or not) extend it to roads?
>
>
>
> access:conditional  = no @ flood
>
>
> I'm using flood_prone=yes. With surface=concrete.
>
> But I was looking for some method to unify intermittent aspects of rivers
> and roads that are related when roads are crossing river or vice versa.
>
>
>
>
> the ford=* key might be useful. They suggest to also tag depth=0 if it is
> usually dry year round. I think this is the tag you are looking for,
> especially since the road section is designed to be submerged (the concrete
> sections) which means it is a ford (as emergency or very large vehicles,
> like a bulldozer, could still cross on the road).
>
>
> In San Diego, there are several large roads that are built with fords, as
> access lost during flood conditions is merely an inconvenience.
>
> I think this applies to any roadway *designed* to let you cross a river by
> going through it, even if it is low/dry most of the time (otherwise,
> floodwaters would easily destroy the crossing).
>
> Also, because of the wadi problem, i will be making up a new “wash” proposal
> - as it seems wadi is completely generic now.
>
>
> Javbw
>
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