Am 15.11.2013, 17:13 Uhr, schrieb Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org>:
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013, Masi Master wrote:
Hi all,
I'm the co-author of this proposal.
There are a difference about bicycle-forbidden and a compulsory
cycleway.
In Germany it is allowed to leave the cycleway for a leftturn, if you
choose the normal leftturn-lane (which cars use). Or in Austria training
with a racebike is allowed to don't look after compulsory cycleway. I.e.
for the last case the router can give you an option to allow
"bicycle=use_cycleway"-roads.
Then you really want bicycle=destination and this whole "use_cycleway"
crud
is redundant if you've mapped the cycleway correctly. I see no
compelling
argument to change the world when access=destination already exists for
exactly this situation.
First, we call this value "designated".
Then we have also cycleways without compulsory, which have also a
(different) sign. Belongs the bicycle=designated-tag only to them with
compulsory? Why this tag is generally implicit in highway=cycleway? We
have also cycleways without signs, which are non-compulsory.
So there are no uniformly tagging for compulsory cycleways on the cycleway.
I.e., if I hate cycleway and need a route without to use cycleways, how
does it work with compulsory cycleways? Banning all cycleways don't work,
because near a compulsory cycleways I ride illegally on the road. I have
to ban all cycleways and all roads which have a compulsory cycleway
(=bicycle=use_cycleway).
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