Jonathan, I think you are saying that foot=yes+bicycle=no covers it. It doesn't because bicycle=dismount is typically advisory, and considerably less strong than bicycle=no. Usually it means that a pedestrian might take umbrage, but the authorities aren't interested in making it an offence.
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Jonathan <bigfatfro...@gmail.com> wrote: > We do appear to have a problem in that in parts of the World the concept > of allowing bicycles but not allowing cycling is a reality, however mad > that may seem. Likewise, some countries don't care where you go with your > bicycle if you're not riding it but other countries don't allow bicycles to > even be present on some ways. > > So, we need to adjust the values in the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/** > wiki/Access <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access> tag to reflect > this. > > Looking at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/** > Access-Restrictions<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions>there > are clear assumptions set out for each country but no where do we > address the issue of bikes being allowed or not dependant on if they are > being ridden or not. > > However, the above is a separate issue to bicycle=dismount. The dismount > road sign is simply a way of telling the cyclist that you can no longer > ride your bicycle along this way. It is a modification of the ACCESS > rights on that way, hence we shouldn't have a tag for that sign, just like > we don't have a tag for no-entry, we either modify the flow of traffic or > modify the ACCESS tag; nor do we have a tag for "Buses only", we modify the > ACCESS tag. > > So, to answer the original question: I see no reason for the > bicycle=dismount, it is covered by the ACCESS tag. > > Here's a clue : > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/Key:bicycle<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle> > > > http://bigfatfrog67.me > > On 11/10/2013 08:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> >> Am 11/ott/2013 um 01:07 schrieb "Frank Little" <frank...@xs4all.nl>: >>> >>> I certainly wouldn't mark it as bicycle=no, because bicycles are allowed >>> (they just have to be pushed). >>> >> >> at the risk of repeating: the key bicycle is not about bicycles but about >> cyclists. >> >> cheers, >> Martin >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/tagging<https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging> >> > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/tagging<https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging> >
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