On 16 October 2012 23:38, Eckhart Wörner <ewoer...@kde.org> wrote: > Hi Rob, > > (Putting tagging ML back in To since this might be of interest to other > people as well, I hope you don't mind.) > > > On topic: In your suggestion you proposed "applies = *". What would you > do > > with the following: > > > > * day_on, etc... > > * restriction:hgv, etc > > * except > > > > Would you suggest deprecating them? Thus a restriction that applies to > only > > hgv's becomes: > > > > restriction = no_u_turn > > applies = no (to switch it off for all transportation modes) > > applies:hgv = yes (to switch it back on for HGVs) > > yeah, that's the idea. The implied default would be something like > "applies=yes, applies:foot=no" so that by default, turn restrictions apply > to everyone but pedestrians. > > The big advantage of using "applies" is that from a language POV it is > immediately clear what is meant, and that the syntax will be *exactly* the > same as in Conditional Restrictions. > > day_on, … should definitely get deprecated, those tags are an unholy mess: > people mess up off and on; people interpret them them as both "from day A > time B to day C time D" and "from time B to time D each day between day A > and day C". > except can probably stay, it can easily be translated (except=bus > translates to applies:bus = no) > restriction:hgv should get deprecated / reverted, someone recently sneaked > this into the wiki page without any discussion. > > Eckhart >
Hi, No problem with you moving this back online (I wanted to check that I wasn't putting words in your mouth first). Thanks for the clarification. I spotted you had reverted some recent changes (thanks) but wasn't aware that restriction:hgv was also a recent addition. I think deprecating these would be step in the right direction and removes many of the concerns I had with using a new tag (namely you end up with "applies" type data within both "restriction:hgv = " and "applies="/"condition="/whatever the new tag is called). I suggest we write up a wiki page proposing the changes. That way we can better track the discussion :-) Rob p.s The talk page for Turn Restrictions is stupidly long. Will take a while to work through it to see if there are any helpful tips in there!
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