Thanks for the feedback Sam. kerosin and I have talked about a couple of different approaches:
social_facility=shelter social_facility:for=homeless or along the lines as you recommended: social_facility=shelter shelter=homeless_shelter I find social_facility:for=homeless to be more descriptive, it's clear who this feature is for. Is there any consensus one way or the other? Also, if I wanted to capture specific data about that they offered, I'd like to follow the amenity:recycling tagging scheme ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling): + homeless_shelter:programs=jobs + homeless_shelter:meals_served=breakfast + homeless_shelter:lodging=yes + homeless_shelter:emergency_medical=yes Is this a good model to follow? Thanks. Sean On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:48, Sam Vekemans <acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com>wrote: > yup, > just change 'social_facility:for=homeless' > to > shelter=homess' > > > this way it's a clear sub-sub-tag > > > cheers, > sam > > On 9/13/10, Sean Horgan <seanhor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 21:52, Steve Bennett <stevag...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Sean Horgan <seanhor...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > social_facility=emergency_shelter (a shelter for homeless people e.g. > in > >> > case of a disaster) > >> > >> The description there looks horribly confusing to me. The words > >> "homeless shelter" leap off the page, even though that's not what it's > >> describing. > >> > >> > > Agreed, this description didn't work and that's what we're clearing up. > In > > fact I believe kerosin just removed that from the social_facility > proposal > > page: > > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/social_facility > > > > > > > >> > social_facility=emergency > >> > >> That tag strikes me as not intuitive - you need an accompanying > >> description to have any idea what it's describing. > >> > > > > There is a clear distinct between homeless people during normal times and > > those who do not have homes during a disaster. The Humanitarian OSM tags > > refers to the latter group as Internally Displaced Peoples (IDPs). > Having > > thought about it some more, I don't think we should include emergency > > facilities into a social facilities feature as they serve different > > populations at different times. > > > > Here is an example of how a homeless shelter feature could be defined: > > > > amenity=social_facility > > + social_facility=shelter > > + social_facility:for=homeless > > + name=Loaves and Fishes Dining Room > > + operator=Sacramento Loaves and Fishes > > +building=yes > > + wheelchair=yes > > + opening hours=24/7 > > +Addr:Street=1321 North C Street > > +Addr:City=Sacramento > > +Addr:State=CA > > > > A newbie question I have goes beyond the definition of social_facility > and > > into capturing more specific information about a homeless shelter, such > as > > specific programs they provide (e.g. veterans, jail visitation, job > > training). Would it be appropriate to introduce a separate > homeless_shelter > > tag for that purpose? > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > Sean > > > > > >> That's my first glance reaction, which is worth what you paid for it. > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > > > > -- > Twitter: @Acrosscanada > Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ > http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans > Skype: samvekemans > IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) > @Acrosscanadatrails > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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