Hi Anton,

To be clear I am not against adding SymPy to SPEC 0. I just want to
understand what this means in practice. Presumably if SymPy is added
there then people will have some expectation that it means something
somehow.

I don't really know how to answer the question "which versions of
SymPy should I try to support within my package that has SymPy as a
dependency" because I am not sure what the benefit would be of
supporting more than 1 version of SymPy.

Is there a reason that someone would need to combine a newer version
of your package with an older version of SymPy?

Oscar

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 15:18, Anton Akhmerov <anton.akhme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Oscar,
>
> I want to be able to answer a question: "which versions of SymPy should I try 
> to support within my package that has SymPy as a dependency". It doesn't make 
> a big difference whether this question is answered by SPEC 0 or by SymPy 
> itself, except for SPEC 0 being a central point of reference. I realized that 
> SymPy has no support cycle, but I think the question is still useful 
> regardless.
>
> Anton
> On Sunday 10 March 2024 at 15:48:13 UTC+1 Oscar wrote:
>>
>> Hi Anton,
>>
>> What difference does it make to you in practice whether or not SymPy
>> is listed in SPEC 0?
>>
>> SymPy does not really support old versions with maintenance releases
>> so it does not really have a "support cycle" in the sense that SPEC 0
>> seems to describe. There can be a bugfix release shortly after a
>> feature release to fix some obvious regressions but that is basically
>> it.
>>
>> SymPy itself broadly tries to have wide version support for other
>> packages like numpy just because without listing them as hard
>> dependencies there is no way to indicate which versions sympy is
>> compatible with. There is no way to put version constraints on
>> optional dependencies in pip/PyPI land.
>>
>> Oscar
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 14:24, Anton Akhmerov <anton.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > There is now SPEC 0, a SciPy-community-wide standard for versions of 
>> > different packages that developers should aim supporting, see 
>> > https://scientific-python.org/specs/spec-0000/
>> >
>> > I believe Sympy is the biggest package missing from SPEC 0, and I've asked 
>> > the maintainers of SPEC 0 what is the best way to proceed 
>> > (https://discuss.scientific-python.org/t/spec-0-include-sympy/975?u=akhmerov).
>> >  They appear to welcome the idea and recommended to reach out via this 
>> > mailing list.
>> >
>> > So here's the question I'd like to know (as someone authoring software 
>> > that depends on Sympy): would Sympy like to join SPEC 0?
>> >
>> > Thank you for your consideration,
>> > Anton
>> >
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