Is your concern about this because of the HTTPS errors? Or is your concern that the archives are public?
If the former, then you are seeing a proper error message for a user error. If the latter, this is a public list. It's archives have always been public and do not require a login. --Greg On Fri, May 2, 2025, 2:01 PM David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: > So are you saying that nobody at CrossWire cares a diddly squat that > strangers can connect straight to the archives without having to login via > a secure connection? > > Best regards, > > David > > Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. > > On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 7:51 PM, Greg Hellings < > greg.helli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There is nothing insecure about it. We allow both HTTP and HTTPS > connections. > > If you use the incorrect hostname over HTTPS you get an invalid cert, > because the hostname you told the browser to use does not match the cert. > The solution is to use the correct hostname. > > If you use HTTP some browsers give a warning that they don't like HTTP. > The solution is to either ignore it because that's silly, or use HTTPS > (correctly). > > The server and browser both respond appropriately to what is, at the base > case, a user error. > > --Greg > > On Fri, May 2, 2025, 1:44 PM David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: > >> It remains the case that the list archive / server >> <http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel> has an insecure >> connection that uses only HTTP. >> >> We should upgrade it ASAP to use HTTPS to avoid all the Browser Warnings! >> >> It's 2025 now. Nobody nowadays should still be using HTTP. >> >> With all the kerfuffle/hilarity about my use of *Leo*, we seem to have >> lost sight of the main point! >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >> >> On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 6:27 PM, DM Smith <dmsm...@crosswire.org> >> wrote: >> >> Fair enough of a disclaimer. >> >> On May 2, 2025, at 10:39 AM, Nathan Phillip Brink < >> ohnobi...@ohnopublishing.net> wrote: >> >> I think Leo clearly enough said that he doesn't know the actual URI but >> that if this organization followed a common pattern, they might have chosen >> that URI. I don't think that's a hallucination, but I don't know the jargon. >> >> On 2025-05-02 9:18:05 GMT-05:00, DM Smith <dmsm...@crosswire.org>: >> >> Leo is hallucinating. This is a well known problem of GPT agents. >> >> On May 2, 2025, at 8:13 AM, David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Troy, >> >> That's a curious question! >> >> Me: What is pipermail? >> >> Leo: Based on the search results, **pipermail** appears to be a term >> related to electronic mailing lists, specifically the archives of mailing >> lists managed by the GNU Mailman software. >> >> According to Wikipedia, GNU Mailman is a computer software application >> for managing electronic mailing lists, and pipermail is likely a part of >> this system. It seems that pipermail is used to access and browse the >> archives of mailing lists. >> >> If you're looking for more information on pipermail, I can try to help >> you further. >> >> Me: What is the URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's >> mailing list called sword-devel ? >> >> Leo: The URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing >> list called sword-devel is not explicitly mentioned in the search results >> you provided. However, based on the context, it appears to be related to >> email list archives or mailing list management systems. >> >> From the search results, it seems that the `pipermail` term is related to >> email list archives, specifically the archives of mailing lists managed by >> the GNU Mailman software. >> >> Given this information, it is possible that the URL for the archive of >> the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel is in the >> format of `https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/` >> <https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/> or something >> similar. >> >> Aside: Leo is the AI agent in the Brave browser. >> >> So, now you know how I found it, is there something amiss with the >> aforementioned hostname? >> I don't recall seeing it before, but, hey! >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >> >> On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 1:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts < >> scr...@crosswire.org> wrote: >> >> Don't use 'lists' dot crosswire.org. Where did you find that hostname? >> We have a catchall, so you can say https://bettyboop.crosswire.org< >> https://bettyboop.crosswire.org/> if you want, but the certificate won't >> be value for that domain. >> >> On 5/2/25 6:46 AM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> If you visit (eg) https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/ >> >> The first thing you notice is a Browser Warning that the URL is insecure. >> The https connection falls back to insecure http >> >> Please would someone with access to our server make the necessary changes >> for our list archives. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org < >> mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org <sword-devel@crosswire.org>> >> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >
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