It is true that it would be nice if the footer on the mailing list could
be updated to show an HTTPS URI instead of an HTTP one. Then users would
get a little bit of protection if they follow the links while using a
public hotspot. Is that possible?
On 2025-05-02 14:51, Greg Hellings wrote:
There is nothing insecure about it. We allow both HTTP and HTTPS
connections.
If you use the incorrect hostname over HTTPS you get an invalid cert,
because the hostname you told the browser to use does not match the
cert. The solution is to use the correct hostname.
If you use HTTP some browsers give a warning that they don't like
HTTP. The solution is to either ignore it because that's silly, or use
HTTPS (correctly).
The server and browser both respond appropriately to what is, at the
base case, a user error.
--Greg
On Fri, May 2, 2025, 1:44 PM David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote:
It remains the case that the list archive / server
<http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel> has an
insecure connection that uses only HTTP.
We should upgrade it ASAP to use HTTPS to avoid all the Browser
Warnings!
It's 2025 now. Nobody nowadays should still be using HTTP.
With all the kerfuffle/hilarity about my use of *Leo*, we seem to
have lost sight of the main point!
Best regards,
David
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On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 6:27 PM, DM Smith
<dmsm...@crosswire.org> wrote:
Fair enough of a disclaimer.
On May 2, 2025, at 10:39 AM, Nathan Phillip Brink
<ohnobi...@ohnopublishing.net> wrote:
I think Leo clearly enough said that he doesn't know the actual
URI but that if this organization followed a common pattern,
they might have chosen that URI. I don't think that's a
hallucination, but I don't know the jargon.
On 2025-05-02 9:18:05 GMT-05:00, DM Smith <dmsm...@crosswire.org>:
Leo is hallucinating. This is a well known problem of GPT agents.
On May 2, 2025, at 8:13 AM, David Haslam
<dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi Troy,
That's a curious question!
Me: What is pipermail?
Leo: Based on the search results, **pipermail** appears to be
a term related to electronic mailing lists, specifically the
archives of mailing lists managed by the GNU Mailman software.
According to Wikipedia, GNU Mailman is a computer software
application for managing electronic mailing lists, and
pipermail is likely a part of this system. It seems that
pipermail is used to access and browse the archives of mailing
lists.
If you're looking for more information on pipermail, I can try
to help you further.
Me: What is the URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible
Society's mailing list called sword-devel ?
Leo: The URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's
mailing list called sword-devel is not explicitly mentioned in
the search results you provided. However, based on the
context, it appears to be related to email list archives or
mailing list management systems.
From the search results, it seems that the `pipermail` term is
related to email list archives, specifically the archives of
mailing lists managed by the GNU Mailman software.
Given this information, it is possible that the URL for the
archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called
sword-devel is in the format of
`https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/`
<https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/> or
something similar.
Aside: Leo is the AI agent in the Brave browser.
So, now you know how I found it, is there something amiss with
the aforementioned hostname?
I don't recall seeing it before, but, hey!
Best regards,
David
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On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 1:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts
<scr...@crosswire.org> wrote:
Don't use 'lists' dotcrosswire.org <http://crosswire.org/>.
Where did you find that hostname? We have a catchall, so you
can
sayhttps://bettyboop.crosswire.org<https://bettyboop.crosswire.org/>
if you want, but the certificate won't be value for that domain.
On 5/2/25 6:46 AM, David Haslam wrote:
If you visit
(eg)https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/
The first thing you notice is a Browser Warning that the URL
is insecure.
The https connection falls back to insecure http
Please would someone with access to our server make the
necessary changes for our list archives.
Best regards,
David
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