Versifications are merely that. They do not encompass mappings of one v11n to
another.
Before SWORD began to support av11n, several Bible modules were squeezed into
the KJV v11n.
Only a few of these have the original references parenthesised at the start of
verse text.
Best regards,
David
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On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 02:07, John Dudeck <john.dud...@sim.org> wrote:
> Dominique and all,
>
> I need to understand better what the v11n functionality actually does in
> Sword.
>
> A good example is the Plague of Frogs in Exodus. In all my English bibles, as
> well as French Darby, it starts on Ex 8:1. However in all my other French
> bibles it starts on Ex 7:26-29, and Ex chapter 8 is offset by 4 verses.
>
> I notice that the French Bibles downloadable in AndBible (I looked at
> FreSegond and F10), follow the KJV versification, rather than the official
> French versification. In other words, they have been modified and do not
> follow their canonical form.
>
> So I am frustrated trying to figure out how Sword (and AndBible) handle v11n.
> I have read the Wiki several times over. It is so sketchy that it's not much
> help.
>
> I realize that things are in flux in this area. Reportedly AndBible is
> supposed to already have the French v11n, but the French Bibles that are in
> the repository follow the KJV, so there is no way to demonstrate what it is
> doing.
>
> So my question is: How is v11n _supposed_ to work? Does it effectively map
> every verse between versions having different v11n?
>
> The .h file appears to only list the book order and the number of verses in
> each chapter. I don't see how this maps verse to verse. It can't possibly
> just assume that from chapter 1 verse 1 to the end of the book all the verses
> are contiguous and can be matched 1-to-1 with a different bible, because not
> all bibles have the same number of verses. In some places, two verse are
> merged into one, other places one verse is split into two, in Psalms the
> headers are counted as verse 1 in French but not in English, some Bibles have
> dropped out certain verses and left gaps in the verse numbering, etc, etc.
>
>> > But the Colombe is different in the book of Joel... it follows the BHS and
>> > has 4 chapters.
>>
>> In fact, after a closer look, I discovered 56 differences in OT and 2 in NT
>> between the Segond 1910 and a revised 1978 I own.
>> This are not only differences in the number of maximum verses per chapter,
>> but also in the number of chapter for 2 books, Joel and Malachi.
>
> Right. I only mentioned just the one example, that was causing osis2mod to
> hang...it never got as far as Malachi, etc.
>
>> I guess you have two options, either you renumber the verses of the
>> commentary to match an existing v11n, or you write a new verse map for the
>> 'Colombe'.
>
> I would be happy to do a verse map, but I am not clear on how the mapping is
> done.
>
> My current work-around is going to be (as you suggest) to adjust all of the
> French references in the commentaries to their KJV equivalents. This will not
> be seen by the user, as it will be done in the <div annotateRef=...> and
> <reference osisRef=...> tags. I already have code that does this in my
> conversion scripts. But I am hoping that the forthcoming v11n will allow me
> to work with the natural v11n of each commentary, and let Sword handle the
> mapping.
>
> BTW We will be putting three new French bibles into Sword: Parole de Vie,
> S21, and Nouvelle Edition de Genève (NEG). These are not public domain, and
> will only be distributed in the scope of our project. I will have to see
> whether there will be v11n issues with any of these. MacArthur's commentaries
> use NEG. The Africa Bible Commentary uses Colombe. But we are not likely to
> put the Colombe Bible into the project, nor NBS nor Semeur, because of cost.
>
>> As a starting point, please find attached a skeleton for a new v11n, it is
>> based on my own Bible 'Colombe'.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --
>> domcox <domini...@corbex.org>
>
> John Dudeck Tel: +1-704-588-9891 Cell: +1-803-504-8065
> john.dud...@sim.org Charlotte, North Carolina
> --
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> When family and friends are gone home, When we are back to our schedules,
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> To build bridges of trust, not walls of fear, To share our gifts,
> To seek justice and peace for all people,
> To bring Christ's light to the world. -- Michael Dougherty
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