Ammendment:

“EAC-3 (DD+) is natively supported by Edge and all Safari browsers.”

I did a fast html5test (.com) on my iPad running on some very old iOS 13.x (for some stupid reason I can’t update my AirPad Air 2 to version 15.x, which would be the last supported one; need probably to reset my Apple ID to “recover” my lost password 🤭), and even in this outdated configuration: 

DD+ is definitively supported by mobile Safari, see result list (here posted in text format, sursound might not like htrml5 text...I hope there won't be any "optical breakdown"...):

Audio codecs



PCM audio support   

No

MP3 support       

Yes ✔

AAC support       

Yes ✔

Dolby Digital support

Yes ✔

Dolby Digital Plus support

Yes ✔

Ogg Vorbis support

No ✘

Ogg Opus support

No ✘

WebM with Vorbis support

No ✘

WebM with Opus support

No ✘

I don't think that iOS/iPadOS 16-x would show different results, by the way.

As there is no Safari adaptation for Windows, Linux etc., my statement that any (more or less recent) Safati browser would support DD+ should be correct.

Edge: Supports all tested codecs (above) on Win10. (I don't know which codecs the Edge browsers would support or better "would not support" if running on other operating systems than Windows, but you can always test via html5test.com)

(Maybe this last question is a bit academic anyway... Edge is in the very most cases used as desktop browser for Windows 10/11.)

Best,

Stefan

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I think that mobile Safari (so the Safari version for iOS and iPadOS) should also support DD+ (since iOS 14/iPadOS 14 probably), because Apple Spatial Audio supports DD+/Atmos.

I will try to test this. ;-)

Otherwise, agreed.

Best,

Stefan

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Data: Mon, 8 May 2023 06:01:56 +0000

De: "Fersch, Christof" <christof.fer...@dolby.com>

Assunto: Re: [Sursound] [Proposal] for HOA web-streaming-format

Para: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>

You are right on EDGE and Safari on *PC platforms*. Firefox, Chrome, … are a different story. And there is more differences depending on which platform the browser is running (Windows, Android, iOS, MacOS, …). What I wanted to say is that you would need to be more specific for a statement on browser support (is always a combination of browser, OS, maybe even HW).

Nevertheless, I of course agree MPEG-H support on Browser/OS is not “very widespread”. However, it also offers features/compression which are much more advanced than what currently deployed codecs can do.

Ok, I see, thanks for clarifying. The statement below refers to DD (not DD+).

//Christof

From: Sursound <sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> on behalf of Stefan Schreiber <st...@mail.telepac.pt>

Date: Saturday, 6. May 2023 at 00:41

To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>

Subject: Re: [Sursound] [Proposal] for HOA web-streaming-format

Short answer:

EAC-3 (DD+) is natively supported by Edge and all Safari browsers.

I  really was refering to this one...

AC-3 patents should have expired by now, but of course this codec is a

bit old. (And won’t support even 7.1, by the way. The highest channel

count would be 6.1, and the B channel would be matrixed into 5.1. If

my memory is correctly working. But probably yes... ;-)

Thanks,

Stefan

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