Hi Stefan,

I you are interested in commercially using MPEG-H audio, you can easily license 
from VIA:
https://www.via-la.com/licensing/mpeg-h/

That is the easiest possible way and similar for the AAC-family.

On browser-support: There is also a browser plugin under the shared links. 
Which is a start. Obviously, there is no commercial implementation available in 
all browsers.

On “already available”: At least DD+ is not (maybe you meant AC-3, for which 
the situation may be different).

Best regards,
//Christof

From: Sursound <sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> on behalf of Stefan Schreiber 
<st...@mail.telepac.pt>
Date: Wednesday, 3. May 2023 at 20:38
To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sursound] [Proposal] for HOA web-streaming-format
Ammendment:

I see what you say. However, if we are talking about some solution to
code, transport, decode and render HOA within browsers, Mpeg-H
currently just can't help. (Because the browser AND OS support for
Mpeg-H 3DA is currently "stuck" at exactly 0%.

Programming your own "app" might run into license issues. (You don't
have such an issue with AAC or even DD+ codecs; which are "already
available" if you would chose to use them.)

I suppose the Mpeg-I Immersive Audio (which very probably would
include support for Mpeg-H 3DA "classic", in the same sense as HE-AAC
is a superset of AAC-LC) might have enormous potential for the
computer and gaming industry. (However, application is not exactly
"imminent". )

Best regards

Stefan

> "Please also see
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/ittiam-systems/libmpegh__;!!HOHtwYw!FT8U9L-leOGRdV2eq47b7qV69FDM-7gqiT0R31XGsvIrpu2HfqhY0IEHyQJIS0Baa4N-0Wq5OGT7hGlKWxraU-YS$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/ittiam-systems/libmpegh__;!!HOHtwYw!FT8U9L-leOGRdV2eq47b7qV69FDM-7gqiT0R31XGsvIrpu2HfqhY0IEHyQJIS0Baa4N-0Wq5OGT7hGlKWxraU-YS$>
>
> and
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/ittiam-systems/libmpeghe__;!!HOHtwYw!FT8U9L-leOGRdV2eq47b7qV69FDM-7gqiT0R31XGsvIrpu2HfqhY0IEHyQJIS0Baa4N-0Wq5OGT7hGlKW_jNaTZE$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/ittiam-systems/libmpeghe__;!!HOHtwYw!FT8U9L-leOGRdV2eq47b7qV69FDM-7gqiT0R31XGsvIrpu2HfqhY0IEHyQJIS0Baa4N-0Wq5OGT7hGlKW_jNaTZE$>
>
> "
>
> With all due respect:
>
> I really like Mpeg-H and am following the Mpeg-I development, but
> Mpeg 3DA is certainly not an open system.
>
> Even if there is some open code.
>
> So how do you currently license Mpeg-H 3DA?  (A good expert
> question, probably...  ;-)
>
> (I suppose I have to write to Fraunhofer IIS to treat that. Or will
> you guys at Dolby "help" me to do this? ;-)
>
> Best regards
>
> Stefan
>
> P.S.: Not to overlook that Mpeg-H 3DA Baseline doesn't even support
> HOA, whereas the more complete version Mpeg 3DA LC does...
>
> (Atmos doesn't seem to support HOA either. )
>
> ----- Mensagem de Fersch, Christof <christof.fer...@dolby.com> ---------
>
> Data: Wed, 3 May 2023 13:54:43 +0000
>
> De: "Fersch, Christof" <christof.fer...@dolby.com>
>
> Assunto: Re: [Sursound] [Proposal] for HOA web-streaming-format
>
> Para: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
>
>> Please also see
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/ittiam-systems/libmpegh__;!!HOHtwYw!FT8U9L-leOGRdV2eq47b7qV69FDM-7gqiT0R31XGsvIrpu2HfqhY0IEHyQJIS0Baa4N-0Wq5OGT7hGlKWxraU-YS$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/ittiam-systems/libmpegh__;!!HOHtwYw!FT8U9L-leOGRdV2eq47b7qV69FDM-7gqiT0R31XGsvIrpu2HfqhY0IEHyQJIS0Baa4N-0Wq5OGT7hGlKWxraU-YS$>
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/ittiam-systems/libmpeghe__;!!HOHtwYw!FT8U9L-leOGRdV2eq47b7qV69FDM-7gqiT0R31XGsvIrpu2HfqhY0IEHyQJIS0Baa4N-0Wq5OGT7hGlKW_jNaTZE$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/ittiam-systems/libmpeghe__;!!HOHtwYw!FT8U9L-leOGRdV2eq47b7qV69FDM-7gqiT0R31XGsvIrpu2HfqhY0IEHyQJIS0Baa4N-0Wq5OGT7hGlKW_jNaTZE$>
>>
>> for freely available MPEG-H decoders and encoders, including
>> web-plugin for the decoder.
>>
>> //Christof
>>
>> From: Sursound <sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> on behalf of Aaron
>> Heller <ajhel...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Date: Tuesday, 2. May 2023 at 22:24
>>
>> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] [Proposal] for HOA web-streaming-format
>>
>> There's MPEG-H 3D Audio
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-H_3D_Audio__;!!HOHtwYw!AsC1o9UYxCMx7E3ZLD9v9t266ETu5nwqqvY8uNBqnP10TNlsxQJQVYPbx3OZC6_wdvUrM7AjMSotFaYkwCSiLw$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-H_3D_Audio__;!!HOHtwYw!AsC1o9UYxCMx7E3ZLD9v9t266ETu5nwqqvY8uNBqnP10TNlsxQJQVYPbx3OZC6_wdvUrM7AjMSotFaYkwCSiLw$><https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-H_3D_Audio__;!!HOHtwYw!AsC1o9UYxCMx7E3ZLD9v9t266ETu5nwqqvY8uNBqnP10TNlsxQJQVYPbx3OZC6_wdvUrM7AjMSotFaYkwCSiLw$%3chttps:/urldefense.com/v3/__https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-H_3D_Audio__;!!HOHtwYw!AsC1o9UYxCMx7E3ZLD9v9t266ETu5nwqqvY8uNBqnP10TNlsxQJQVYPbx3OZC6_wdvUrM7AjMSotFaYkwCSiLw$%3e>
>>
>> and Google's Draft IETF proposal
>>
>>
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