Thanks for the input Marc.

I come from the gaming industry, and many practices can be adopted for
broadcast and linear content delivery.

From my research, I can confirm that the FLAC version worked better on your
2015 demo, because of signal preservation.

In my experience, regarding modern browsers like Chrome, if I configure my
sound card from Windows to see a 7.1 system in the outputs, the browser can
play that back without any further actions from me.

*Pan Athen*
SoundFellas <https://soundfellas.com/>, *MediaFlake Ltd
<http://mediaflake.com/>*
Digital Media Services, Content, and Tools


On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:10 PM Marc Lavallée <m...@hacklava.net> wrote:

> To my knowledge browsers don't support more than 8 channels, and
> configuring them for outputting more than 2 channels is probably a
> challenge for most users. One solution is to use MPEG-DASH and
> reassemble parts and decode them. But as with anything "Hi-Fi", the
> reproduction system is key, so unless people have individual HRTF and
> calibrated headphones, it may not be worth streaming Ambisonics to
> browsers with a lot of resolution. I don't know how many browsers are
> driving multichannel surround systems.
>
> The Internet can work without browsers, so for exotic uses cases (like
> Ambisonics) using dedicated software is a solution, in order to easily
> configure the system for more than 8 (even 2) channels, use the most
> appropriate codec (like the gaming industry is doing).
>
> In 2015 (before Google and Facebook) I coded a little horizontal-only
> demo (https://ambisonic.xyz/) using 3-channel files; I tried with the
> AAC, Opus and FLAC codecs, and (to me) it sounds better with FLAC, maybe
> because phases are preserved between multiple channels, while Opus
> sounded the worst (even if it is officially supporting Ambisonics). I'm
> sorry that my demo is (again) not working because of browser updates
> that are breaking web sites with unconventional features. A next fix
> could try to use WavPack.
>
> Marc
>
> Le 2023-05-01 à 11 h 28, Panos Kouvelis a écrit :
> > I see,
> >
> > Then as suggested by others, and as I just read online, I think that
> > WavPack might be a good alternative?
> >
> > Were you able to stream more than 8 channels using Opus on Safari? I
> think
> > I read somewhere that it's not possible to stream more than 8 channels in
> > Safari in general and I would like to confirm that if you have that
> > information.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > *Pan Athen*
> > SoundFellas <https://soundfellas.com/>, *MediaFlake Ltd
> > <http://mediaflake.com/>*
> > Digital Media Services, Content, and Tools
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 10:43 AM Bo-Erik Sandholm <bosses...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> We use webaudio api and a modified omnitone.
> >> We use up to third order and can play wav, aac-lc and opus on most
> >> platforms.
> >>
> >> We have thought to use multitrack mp4/m4a with 2 × 8 channels with
> libfdk
> >> heAAC which is the best available AAC-He codec for private persons ,
> but it
> >> also have a 8 channel limit.
> >>
> >> The fetch and audio buffer is handled as they are in the mp4 container.
> >>
> >> But we do not have the knowledge to write the code to use WAAPI
> transport
> >> functions, and feed them into the decoder.
> >>
> >> We use the built in os codecs for all platforms.
> >>
> >> IOS has the most limitations.
> >>
> >> Bosse
>
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