I've been using them for four years and not experienced those problems (apart from original a da 8000's PSU problems) . The four adat set to slave are controlled by the raydat master clock no need for Wordclock. In fact many people seem to regard external master clocks as snake oil. Im not going there. Cable length is not a problem as I have computer and adats in the same rack so cable length is not an issue . I have run xlrs of 100 m from the behringers with no problem. The seventy thousand pound studer console with madi interface at sarc makes a large pop when turned off - the old adage that speakers should be last on first off solves this as it does with less expensive setups. As for signal to noise ratio well I've seen this discussed quite a lot with pre amps but rarely these days with dacs. Thd and "noise " is well below audible levels in both units - I can point you to measurements of ada800 if your interested certainly it held its own against more expensive units. The one place I do concede is the cables are a pain but if you set it up right and dont move it there shouldn't be any problems . My rig is mobile do the cables are annoying but not 2 thousand pounds worth of annoying. I guess this is why large multichannel installations such as the wfs systems at Salford university or game of life because the extra cost of madi is not worth the gain in performance (which audibly is none). Still i like the idea of one box out of curiosity does the Andiamo supply balanced outs ?
On Friday, 16 October 2015, Ben Bloomberg <b...@mit.edu> wrote: > Jörn is absolutely spot on here. > If you are interested in a box with AES, ADAT, MADI and AVB, check out > MOTU's 112D. > It's a great unit. > Ben > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier < > netti...@stackingdwarves.net <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > On 10/16/2015 01:02 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: > > > > I am curious also about your comment that adat was unreliable - is this > >> your experience in general or just the original ada8000 ? The ada8200 > has > >> no reports of unreliability since the.changed PSU. Unless he needs > >> his.computer more than ten metres from adat it puts the cost of 32 > >> channels > >> from around 1500 euros to andiamo and madi around 5000 euros . > >> > > > > I wasn't talking about the Behringer converter, specifically. Yes, the > old > > one was notorious for its badly designed power supply - it died on me > > several times. The new one is supposed to be much better. > > > > But ADAT itself is a problem in fixed installations. The connectors are > > toys (I usually apply a drop of hot glue, but that has its downsides :), > th > > plastic fibers are toys (get the right length, signal will drop a lot > when > > you coil them too much), and ADAT sync is one of these technologies that > > are working most of the time. Which in my book is worse than something > that > > never works :( > > Plus ADAT interfaces will pop loudly when you switch them in the wrong > > order or hotplug a connector. > > > > I already talked about ADAT cable length restrictions. Can be overcome, > > but then you should factor in the costs of a dual-screen remote console > in > > the venue that connects to the rendering computer in the machine room. > > Also, factor in the (small) cost of Wordclock sync to every ADAT device, > > just to be safe. > > > > Just providing a single MADI connector for visiting artists to hook up to > > is often easier that re-routing a bunch of ADAT lines. Plus you don't > want > > to take your ADAT plugs through too many mating cycles, they will become > > even more unreliable after a short while. BNC or SC are bullet-proof. > > > > So yes, you can cut the budget a little, but I don't think it's the best > > option. I feel I should be recommending something Audio-over-IP-based > > rather than MADI, but with its strange renaissance, MADI gear is now > quite > > affordable and will be for another few years. Plus it's usually built to > > broadcast standards, which means it's an investment that will last you a > > while. And in terms of SNR, the Andiamo is a lot better than the > Behringer > > (not to say the latter is bad). > > > > > > > > -- > > Jörn Nettingsmeier > > Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 > > > > Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) > > Tonmeister VDT > > > > http://stackingdwarves.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu <javascript:;> > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20151016/26c07911/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu <javascript:;> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- www.augustineleudar.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20151016/3a70be2b/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
