On 10/16/2015 01:02 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote:

I am curious also about your comment that adat was unreliable - is this
your experience in general or just the original ada8000 ? The ada8200 has
no reports of unreliability since the.changed PSU. Unless he needs
his.computer more than ten metres from adat it puts the cost of 32 channels
from around 1500 euros to andiamo and madi around 5000 euros .

I wasn't talking about the Behringer converter, specifically. Yes, the old one was notorious for its badly designed power supply - it died on me several times. The new one is supposed to be much better.

But ADAT itself is a problem in fixed installations. The connectors are toys (I usually apply a drop of hot glue, but that has its downsides :), th plastic fibers are toys (get the right length, signal will drop a lot when you coil them too much), and ADAT sync is one of these technologies that are working most of the time. Which in my book is worse than something that never works :( Plus ADAT interfaces will pop loudly when you switch them in the wrong order or hotplug a connector.

I already talked about ADAT cable length restrictions. Can be overcome, but then you should factor in the costs of a dual-screen remote console in the venue that connects to the rendering computer in the machine room. Also, factor in the (small) cost of Wordclock sync to every ADAT device, just to be safe.

Just providing a single MADI connector for visiting artists to hook up to is often easier that re-routing a bunch of ADAT lines. Plus you don't want to take your ADAT plugs through too many mating cycles, they will become even more unreliable after a short while. BNC or SC are bullet-proof.

So yes, you can cut the budget a little, but I don't think it's the best option. I feel I should be recommending something Audio-over-IP-based rather than MADI, but with its strange renaissance, MADI gear is now quite affordable and will be for another few years. Plus it's usually built to broadcast standards, which means it's an investment that will last you a while. And in terms of SNR, the Andiamo is a lot better than the Behringer (not to say the latter is bad).



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